Thank you Jeri, for your complete and admirably scholarly response!  My 
knowledge is based on the first of your references... the "Royal Honiton 
Laces", which I own.  However, I confess that I have not gone beyond one source 
(an absolute "fail" in the current parlance), so I concede!

Clay

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On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> A long reply for Clay and others interested in Queen Victoria's  laces:
> 
> I do not know the source of your information (below),  Clay.  Queen 
> Victoria was a very sentimental woman and wore her  wedding laces throughout 
> her 
> life.  Several of us have written  frequently on Arachne about Queen 
> Victoria's laces, and many of those memos have  been from me.  I know the 
> ladies in 
> the U.K. have seen exhibits of her lace  many times, while I have seen the 
> wedding lace only 3 times.
> 
> The costume and lace experts to whom I have turned for information for  the 
> past few decades are:
> 
> 1.  Elsie Luxton & Yusai Fukuyama - "Royal Honiton Lace",  Batsford, 1988, 
> ISBN 0-7134-5764-3, 95-page hardback.  This gives a  comprehensive history 
> and view of Queen Victoria's wedding lace and royal  christening robe - many 
> black/white pictures.  An  interesting unrelated section of the book is the 
> reproduction of  10 pages (in old English) of 1695 documents enacted by 
> Parliament.   This book may be borrowed from IOLI's library.  It is item 
> H-034.
> 
> 2.  Kay Staniland - "In Royal Fashion - The Clothes of Princess  Charlotte 
> of Wales and Queen Victoria 1796-1901", Museum of London, 1997, ISBN  
> 0-904818-77-2, 192-page limp cover, artbook size.  This scholar/author is  
> well-known in the U.K. for her costume history expertise, and especially that 
> of  
> these two royal daughters.  I'd venture to say she is as well known as  
> Santina Levey, but in the field of costume.  This book has photos of Queen  
> Victoria as an old woman, dressed for royal weddings, with her wedding lace  
> flounce sewn to her black gowns.   Here is a picture  caption:  
> 
> "In 1897 this photograph was used as an official Jubilee portrait, but it  
> had actually been taken on 6 July 1893 at the time of the marriage of Prince 
> George, Duke of York, to Princess Mary of Teck, the last occasion on which 
> the  Queen wore her wedding lace.  She had previously worn the lace at the  
> marriage of Prince Leopold in 1882, and again a photograph taken at the 
> time was  issued in 1887 as an official portrait.  The design shows up 
> particularly  well on its black satin ground.  The Queen is also wearing her 
> wedding 
> veil  with the small diamond crown made for her in 1870, and a portrait 
> bracelet of  the Prince Consort."
> 
> In the Royal Collection there is a huge painting of the actual  wedding 
> called "The Marriage of Queen Victoria, 10 February 1840, by  Sir George 
> Hayter.  About this, Staniland wrote a caption for the  painting:  "The 
> figure of 
> the Queen shows her dress complete with its  original court train (no longer 
> extant)."  
> 
> This Staniland book is not in the IOLI's library.  Suggest  interlibrary 
> loan -- well worth the trouble to get for a fascinating read.   The cased 
> version is ISBN 0-904818-55-1.
> 
> 3.  A 32-page booklet (H-075) that is in IOLI's library is by Kay  
> Staniland and Santina M. Levey - "Queen Victoria's Wedding Dress and Lace", 
> The  
> Costume Society (U.K.), 1983, no ISBN.  This has a couple good photographs  
> of 
> the dress and lace, and a black/white photo of the wedding  painting 
> described in 2 (above).
> 
> 4.  As a long-time member of "The Lace Guild", I can say that  there have 
> been articles in their bulletins through the years about  Queen Victoria's 
> laces.
> 
> 5.  Quite recently, it was reported on Arachne that a new  christening gown 
> was made for Prince Edward's youngest child -- because by now  the original 
> christening gown used since Queen Victoria's time was too fragile  for a 
> baby to wear.  The new gown was reported to have been made from  Honiton lace 
> bits and pieces in the royal collection.
> 
> 6.  There are pictures of the Queen's wedding laces in quite  a few books 
> written by our lace friends (past and present) in the  U.K.  
> 
> Suggestion for those with books on Honiton lace:  Please copy this  memo 
> and place it in one of those for your future reference.
> 
> Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 
> In a message dated 3/27/2012 11:30:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> [email protected] writes:
> 
> Jeri, if  I am not mistaken, one of the reasons that Queen Victoria's 
> wedding gown  is not given more respect is that much of the lace was 
> removed from it and  used in other garments, particularly the Christening 
> Gown worn by all of  her children, and many other Royal babies.  I 
> believe that the last  to wear it was Prince William.  After that, it was 
> considered too  fragile to be used again and is being carefully stored.
> 
> I'm no expert,  so I may have this completely wrong.  I'll welcome any  
> corrections!
> 
> Clay
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