Hi Susan

Well this is down to the mysteries of Coats - or Coats & Clarks as I think it 
is still called in USA.  Coats & Clarks in UK ceased in the 1960s.

I haven’t seen this thread, so I had a look on the Coats (UK) website 
and it’s not there in the list of cotton threads.  I changed the location from 
UK to USA and looked at the list of cotton threads and yes it is there, but a 
lot of the UK ones are not!  Indeed it seems to be two completely different 
ranges of cotton thread.

http://www.makeitcoats.com/en-gb/explore/our-brands/coats
http://www.makeitcoats.com/en-us

It’s not a particularly easy site to use, but from either link click on the 
flag at the top to switch to the other one.
Then scroll down to the purple bit at the bottom and choose ‘Coats Sewing 
Threads’ then click on the spool of purple cotton (USA) or the several reels of 
cotton (UK)

UK offers:      
4662030                 30      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              200m on 
Spool 
4661040                 40      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              100m on 
Spool
4663040                 40      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              350m on 
Spool
4669040                 40      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread - Multicolour        
350m on Spool
4666040                 40      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              800m on 
Spool   
4661050                 50      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              100m on 
Spool   
4662050                 50      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              200m on 
Spool   
4664050                 50      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              450m on 
Spool   
4667050                 50      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              1000m 
on Spool  
4665080                 80      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              650m on 
Spool   
4668080                 80      Coats Cotton Sewing Thread              1300m 
on Spool  

USA offers:
S970            30              All purpose                             206m / 
225yards         3 Ply   
S972            30              Machine quilting                        206m / 
225yards         3 Ply   
S975            30              Machine quilting, solids                320m / 
350yards         3 Ply   
S980            20              Hand quilting, glace finish     320m / 350yards 
        3 Ply   
V33                     30              Machine quilting, multicolour   206m / 
225yards         3 Ply   
V34                     30              Machine quilting, solids                
1097m / 1200yards       3 Ply   
V35                     30              Machine quilting, multicolour   1097m / 
1200yards       3 Ply   

I guess that you have bought either S972 or S975.  It’s a 3 ply thread and 
being made for machine sewing will almost certainly be Z twist.  Looking at 
other brands of 30/3 cottons (not many of them) it’s likely to be about 23-25 
wraps/cm.  Indeed it might even be a re-branded version of the size 30 the 
'lace thread' they brought out a year or so ago to replace Filato di Cantu.
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/misc/misc.htm
about ⅔ of the way down the page.

It’s things like this that keep me on my toes!  It’s bad enough with the brand 
name usually being Anchor or Mez in mainland Europe but to find that USA and UK 
have a totally different range of threads….. and the USA range seems to be only 
thicker thread for quilting, not the finer size 50 that is usually used for 
“ordinary” machine sewing.

I now need to go in search of Coats 80 sewing thread which I’ve never seen but 
is apparently available in UK.

Brenda

On 29 Jun 2014, at 16:16, [email protected] wrote:

> The original plan was to use 40/3 YLI cotton but none could be found in Erie 
> so Plan B was in play.  After much discussion with a staff member (silk vs 
> cotton), I came away with Coats Cotton Machine Quilting 30wt, described 
> online as "extra long staple Egyptian Giza cotton" thread.  Coats explains 
> that it is "ideal for smaller projects like quilted crafts, wall hangings & 
> pillows"...with "little or no stretch".  Having made mistakes with Brenda's 
> book before, I wanted to ask if this is a older thread with a different name 
> or newer thread not yet listed?  It is quite smooth & has a nice sheen, 
> leading me to believe it may have lace potential even if the sewing machine 
> project doesn't work out.  Has anyone used this thread & have an opin!
> ion? 

Brenda in Allhallows
[email protected]
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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