Hello Again!  Thanks for that info Cindy.  Now that I know Brenda's estimated 
wpc factor, it looks like I won't be using C&C S975 for Honiton!  Just as a 
comparison though, Madeira Cotona is wimpy, wimpy, wimpy & pastel, pastel, 
pastel--something that I'd like to overcome.  And maybe I don't fully 
understand why some threads are considered 'lace' threads & others not.  Coming 
at this from the CQ (Crazy Quilt/embroidery) perspective, I don't consider any 
materials sacred to one technique or another--they're all fair game.  So thanks 
again for the heads up!  BTW--the C&C performed beautifully in my ancient 
sewing machine on my linen project, although we won't mention to Jeri that I 
used an archival, non-acid glue stick to temporarily hold the ribbon to the 
ground fabric.  (vbg)  Liz, you would ask & I don't really understand the 
change in the behavior of Piper's silk either.  At the beginning of the week, I 
would say 90% of my bobbins needed clips.  By the end of the week, non!
 e.  So--was it thread wear?  After all I did make lots of mistakes that 
required unlacing.  Was it heat/humidity?  Unlikely because we were in the 
chilliest, most climate controlled room at the Conference Center.  Someone on 
Arachne (Jacquie maybe?) has mentioned that bobbins seem to have a mind of 
their own when the lacemaker is not confident.  In that regard, I was more self 
assured at the end of the week in Sandi's class.  The only other factor that I 
can think of is that the thread relaxed from its factory-wound condition.  This 
theory could easily be tested by winding/hanging pairs at the outset.  I will 
say, I know a gal who has a little collapsible rack that she uses.  She winds 
all her bobbins & hangs them on a rack she purchased in Belgium.  If anyone 
else has a suggestion, please jump in!  It was certainly a curious effect & 
anything that helps me understand how to control my materials & tools, helps me 
make better lace sooner!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA U!
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