Textil za turizem sukanec za klekljanje Idrija is a Slovenian 3ply thread with 
a Z twist, 25 w/cm for size 60. (Translates as 'Tourism textile thread for 
Idrija bobbins"

Coats make (made?) Cipke Mojka Sukanac za Klekljanje Idrija (Translates to 
Mojka lace thread for Idrija bobbins).
This is a 3ply thread with an S twist.  I’ve seen sizes 25 = 23 w/cm, 30 = 24 
w/cm and 40 = 28 w/cm.

Both of those threads will be ‘softer’ than DMC 80 ‘tatting’, actually DMC 
Cordonnet Special 80 or DMC Special Dentelles 80, because that is a 6 ply 
thread, the 2S/3Z means that although it looks superficially like a 3 ply 
thread each of those plies is already a 2ply strand, and comparing the w/cm is 
less straightforward because the 2S/3Z threads keep their round shape a lot 
more when being wrapped (or turned into lace) than a 3ply thread does.  In 
practice that means that the 3 ply spreads a bit more giving a lower w/cm 
measurement than the same amount of fibres in a 3ply yarn.  

So, in theory the DMC 80/6 = Idrija 40/3, but DMC 80/6 = 30 w/cm and Idrija 
40/3 = 28 w/cm.

Whatever brand of Idrija cotton No30 you have I would expect it to be slightly 
thicker rather than slightly finer.  Remember too that 3 ply thread works up 
softer than anything which is 2S/3Z.

Brenda

> 
> I just purchased some Idrija thread.  The white spool says No 30 on it.  I
> also obtained some colors and they also say No 30.  What would be the wraps
> for that?  Anyone know?  and I also purchased some metallic Idrija thread. 
> Any idea what the wraps are for it?  I have checked out Brenda's book and it
> mentions no 60 at 25 wraps.  Just looking at it makes me think DMC 80 tatting
> thread or a bit finer than that. 

Brenda in Allhallows
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www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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