I sent the following to Ann Humphreys on 11/19, and to lace@arachne on 11/20. Let's see if it gets published this time.

Both are part laces using very fine thread. Honiton elements are frequently put together later. Withof elements are connected by the lacemaker as she/he goes. Honiton has pinholes, Withof does not. Honiton uses 3 twists on the pin-under-four, Withof uses 2. Withof uses a thicker thread as gimp. Honiton pairs the thick thread with a thread the weight of the rest of the piece, CTC that pair throughout, so it stays on the edge of the motif. I'm sure there are other differences, but I can't think of any. I'm also sure there are others on this list more qualified to state the differences.

Lorelei wrote:
Withof and Honiton are alike in that they are both part laces which use raised work.
Part lace means that the lace is made up of several discrete parts, and at
the end of the motif the threads are knotted and cut off. So on the wrong
side you will see knots and lumps. But they are quite different in the
sequence of working and the kind of raised work that they do.

Raised work in Honiton may be a narrow tape with pinholes only on one side.
This narrow tape is laid down first, usually to emphasize the central vein
of a leaf, but it may also use a bundle of threads whose purpose is to
travel the threads from the end of one motif segment to the top of another.
Here is a leaf I made from Maidment, using Luxton's instructions.
http://lynxlace.com/images/lace727.jpg
In Withof the bundle of threads is the most common and it may be laid down
to emphasize a leaf central vein. But the whole motif is also usually
surround by a bundle when the motif is ended. This gives relief and
interest, but actually functions to secure all those ends, so there are
fewer knots and much more stability. Here are 2 small motifs I did many
years ago.
http://lynxlace.com/images/lace456.jpg
http://lynxlace.com/images/lace726.jpg

In both the raised work gives dimension to the work, a decoration, but is
primarily a means of moving threads from one place to another without
cutting them off, reducing the number of knots and enhancing stability.

Honiton had and has many designers over the 2 or 3 centuries of its
existence, and its style (the design itself) changed over time. True Withof,
as I understand it, has only Sister Judith as the designer. She and her
students developed Withof as a variation on Duchesse, starting in the mid
20th century.

My Honiton pinterest board
https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/honiton-bobbin-lace/

My Withof pinterest board
https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/withof-bobbin-lace/
Lorelei Halley

What is the difference between Honiton and Withof lace?
Ann
UK

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