Apologies as I did digress when we got onto Nm and other clarifications of thickness, weight, wpi, etc., and it did bring to mind my quest for 3 ply, and is not lace related so digressing from the lists pure objective.
Quickly, Sanquhar is Scottish (named for the town/village) and are gloves with detailed patterns worked in black and white (squares/checks) with gusseted fingers, etc. It was a style/technique then cottage industry that grew in Scotland last century. http://futuremuseum.co.uk/Collection.aspx/sanquhar_knitting/ http://www.tata-tatao.to/knit/sanquhar/e-howtoknit.html Selbuvotter is Norwegian (originated in Selbu, Norway) and is also black and white, akin to Fair Isle and could seem like a distant cousin to the former. <http://www.elann.com/ProductDisp.asp?Name=Selbuvotter+-+Biography+of+a+Knitting+Tradition&ProductType=1> http://www.selbuvotter.com/book.htm Of course because of the history linking Scandinavian and British heritage there is always discussion that each could have originated in each other's country, etc. Sanquhar used a 3 ply yarn and since the designs are intricate one does not size up or down by changing the stitch count, but rather varies the yarn thickness (and perhaps needle size). Since I have med-large hands, I would prefer not to use fingering and of course have something authentic. A table I ran into for yarn thickness is here (but unfortunately does not include UK 4 ply): http://www.shearstoyou.ca/yarnweights.htm Back to the lace discussion! <S> Best, Susan Reishus Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:10:58 +0100 From: Francis Busschaert <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [lace] Laceweight Yarn vs. Thread Thickness hallo, what is this? I have a great love of Sanquhar (and also Selbuvotter, which is less 3 ply specific). it sound very Nordic or Irisch or does it make part of some other ancient knitting slang????? it even sounds to me like part a figure from "lords of the ring" furthermore i want to say that the normal industry is split into 2 sections knitting and weaving manufacturers most are realy specialised in one or the other and if you are in busines on the knitting industry you will only find Nm mentionings never fingering aran or others in fact i have asked some producers the same question they never heard about that aran laceweight etc as far as they recollect they only have uesed Nm and in the old days they had 3 other numbers but then one of the region of limoges france told me that even that is a very very long time ago "Worsted" numbers Dewsbury numbers which are for the very thick counts and the woolen numbers i agree 100% on what brenda says it is time to put the real numbers on the articles and not some own factory label for making tit not easy to compare to other materials all the links i got for reference do help a bit to make a small chart many thx to all francis - To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [email protected]. For help, write to [email protected]
