Thank you. That's very interesting. I think I had an earlier period in mind,
so all is becoming much more clear. =)
Sr. Claire

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 17:15, <[email protected]> wrote:

>  According to Levey, these shirts and smocks with simple edge
> decorations began to be seen in the portraits of the late 15th and early
> 16th century and that it was such edge decoration that eventually flourished
> into very recognizable and impressive lace in the 1560's to 1580s, when
> ruffs were very elaborate. My impression is that by the 18th century, people
> of wealth had linen undershirts of great number, ie. perhaps over a hundred,
> which they changed often.
> Devon
>
>  In a message dated 4/12/2009 9:55:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Thank you, Devon. That's very interesting. What time period are we talking
> about? Elizabethan era?
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 16:53, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Actually, for the upper classes, they seem to have adopted linen
>> underwear, from which lace collars later evolved, exactly so that they could
>> launder the underwear all the time, and not bathe, and keep the overwear
>> cleaner, since it could only be brushed. The under linen was supposed to
>> absorb the bad humors. The invention of washable body linen was credited in
>> my daughter's history book with extending peoples lives even before the
>> institution of other forms of sanitation.
>>
>> There seems to be a lot of references to having to poke and arrange ruffs,
>> with a certain French King, (Henry someone) even doing his own ruff
>> arranging and helping his friends. One had to wear one's ruffs to court
>> events and look good, I would assume. Having a natty looking ruff was a
>> major source of prestige for the upper classes.
>> Devon
>>
>>   In a message dated 4/12/2009 9:42:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> [email protected] writes:
>>
>>  But... how often were clothes washed in those days, particularly good
>> ones,
>> precious ones? I think it must have been far less often than we would be
>> comfortable with today, though I admit I have only vaguely remembered
>> lectures from my uni days as a basis for that.
>> Sr. Claire
>>
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