I wrote this email before I left for vacation, but somehow, it got stuck in
my outbox, so I'm adding my post vacation notes at the top and resending it.

I've managed to get darcs, including an online repository up and running on
my shared hosting service.  It currently has a fairly recent version of the
main repository.  If anyone wants to test against it, try
darcs get --partial http://www.orient-lodge.com/repos/laconica

I've also gotten at least one darcs client running on my Windows Vista box.
I've written a little bit about this in a recent blog post,

http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/3079 Setting up Darcs for Laconi.ca
Development.

I'll take a look at the Wiki to see if there is a nice place to add a link
or some of the content there.

I hope to do some further darcs for noobs hacking soon, but I do need to
catch up on other things that piled up during vacation as well.

Aldon

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Mike,

   This is very helpful.  Has anyone managed to get darcs running on a
shared hosting agreement?  I don't have it on my hosting server.  My
internal linux development server doesn't do email.

   I'm going to be hitting the road shortly and my internet access will be
severely limited for the next week, but I am willing to write up some how to
submit with darcs for the wiki when I get back, if someone doesn't do it
before me.

   Related to that, for people with online darcs repositories, could that be
added to the developer community so we can see each others darcs
repositories?  Would there be ways that darcs repositories could be set up
by/for the community for those that don't have the resources to do that
themselves?

Aldon

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Cochrane
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Laconica-dev] darcs and shell access


Hi Aldon,

I'm an git, svn, and ex cvs user, so picking up darcs was just a matter
of learning new commands to achieve the same task. darcs may feel
uncomfortable for some users because it's not familiar but I suspect
that if this project was in git it would produce the same result.

Aldon Hynes wrote:
>     Even with my command line access to a linux based development box,
where
> I am running darcs 1.0.9, I have not been able to get darcs to send my
> updates.  darcs send says that there are no changes, but darcs diff lists
> changes.  Any help on that would be appreciated as well.
>
You need to darcs record your changes first and then send.

>     So, the bigger question:  How do we make it easier for good developers
to
> be able to contribute?
>
Given that darcs is a distributed source management system, there's no
reason that we can't all add our publicly available darcs repos in a
list in the wiki with the changes that we all have. This would allow us
to pull each others changes and be able to....
     mikenz: @ahynes1 I just added 'feature x' to my repo.
     ahynes1: @mikenz I just pulled 'feature x' and it works for me too.
     randomdev1: @mikenz I just tested it too and it's good.
     evan: 'Feature x' in my repo tested by @ahynes1 and @randomdev1

This means that Evan can continue to maintain a high quality code base
with multiple people testing, not just him checking every one of our
patches. We get to play with what others are working on without waiting
for Evan to approve them into his repo. As Evan's trust in us as codes
and testers grows he'll start to know the quality of the coders in the
comunity and as some point he'll find for example that if @mikenz and
@randomdev1 have both tested it and say it's good then it can just be
pulled in without the same level of scrutiny that @brandnewdev1's code
tested by @unknowndev3 would have.

We need to make it easy for Evan to build trust in our abilities.

FYI: My darcs repos is at http://dev2.gardyneholt.co.nz/laconica/
If you have a darcs checkout already and wanted to pull in my changes
then go into you laconica folder and:
     darcs pull http://dev2.gardyneholt.co.nz/laconica/
Then you can darcs pull with my changes or Evan's by just pulling the
correct url each time.

- MikeNZ





> Aldon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:02 AM
> To: Aldon Hynes
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Laconica-dev] Is it time to fork laconi.ca?
>
>
> Aldon Hynes<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  writes:
>
>
>> So, on to the specifics.  Today, we wandered into the religious
>>
> battlefield
>
>> of version control systems.  Various people don't have shell access and
>> asked if subversion could be used instead of darcs.
>>
>
> I got hung up on the "shell access" point when I was reading the
> discussion earlier.  Could you describe what you mean by it, and how not
> having it prevents one from using darcs but not subversion?
>
> --
> Paul Collins
> Wellington, New Zealand
>
> Dag vijandelijk luchtschip de huismeester is dood
>
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