Not having the equivalent of @ would make it impossible to mention someone's ID in a post (tweet) without it being sent to them. I don't think that's good.
I see your point about the >, but I'd think you could solve that easily by just parsing for those first. Anyway, it could be another character, I just don't like !. It's just visually bad. @[EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't the worst thing in the world. People are used to both conventions. Re: XRI, I'm very new to that discussion, but I sense an undercurrent of suspicion that the people who drafted it were really just trying to set up another ICANN so they could charge for registrations. Here's the some discussion from wikipedia about it: Controversy has arisen[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OASIS_%28organization%29#cite_note-0>because this licensing allows publication of standards requiring licensing fee payments to patent holders, the use of which would effectively eliminate the possibility of free <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software>/open source <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_software> implementations of these standards. Further, contributors could initially offer royalty-free use of their patent, later imposing per-unit fees, after the standard becomes accepted. No wonder Microsoft likes it. :) j/k... JoeC On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Daniel Renfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing I should clarify, When I was referring to favicons, what I meant > was having an img tag with the src pointing to the location of that site's > favicon. Presumably, your phone should be able to display images, and if > not, there is always the alt attribute. > > As far as using > as a delimiter... even though it doesn't technically need > to be escaped, many sanitaion algorithms still will escape it an arbitrary > number of times. I just think we'll see many notices such as: > > >dave Why aren't you getting any of my replies? > > Thinking more about it, assuming we go with the email-style > [EMAIL PROTECTED] identifier, do we even need a character to identify > that you are mentioning a person? There are plenty algorithms for detecting > things that look like an email. All we would have to do is match the notice > against a simple regular expression, [1] contact that server to see if we > can resolve a way to direct the notice to that particular user, and send it. > > I've never been a big fan of XRI. I see the obvious coolness, but > considering I can't currently budget for one, they're not too useful to me, > who is motivated to get one, let alone the average internet user. > > I had a free iname a while ago, but I think the site that was giving it out > is now gone, because while trying to remember where it was, I got a CPanel > default page. > > [1]: > http://ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html<http://ex-parrot.com/%7Epdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html> > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Aldon Hynes < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> To the extent that I am looking at messages online, that would be >> great. However, my cellphone doesn't display favicons very well. >> > >> Meanwhile, I did some more explorations into using XRIs >> >> @ahynes1/identica, as an XRI reference, now forwards property to >> identi.ca >> Check out http://xri.net/@ahynes1/identica >> >> @ahynes1/twitter works the same way. Ideally, any reference to >> @user/system could be displayed as >> <a href=http://xri.net/@user/system>@user/system</a> and if the user has >> registered and set up XRI properly, it would link to the proper site. >> >> On top of that, I can now log into identi.ca using @ahynes1 as my >> OpenId. I thought that was pretty cool. >> >> For more on this, check out >> >> Identi.ca, OpenID and XRI >> http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/3190 >> >> Aldon >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Daniel Renfer >> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 7:00 PM >> *To:* Aldon Hynes >> *Cc:* Laconica Developers Mailing List >> *Subject:* Re: [Laconica-dev] Namespacing usernames for cross-platform >> routing >> >> One thing that might be interesting to see microblogging services do is >> replace the @ portion of a message with the favicon of the service that that >> user belongs to. (of course @ would be the alternate text of that image) >> >> As an example of this, look at what Livejournal does with links to other >> users. >> >> As far as how to link the users, we must be careful not to assume that >> every service has it's own domain. >> >> Would it be too much to ask that microblogging services contact other >> servers to retrieve a URI template to translate [EMAIL PROTECTED] to >> http://identi.ca/bob or [EMAIL PROTECTED] into >> http://kronkltd.net/statuses/duck >> >> It's really too bad that the microblogging community at large has already >> gotten into the habit of preceding a username with @ because @ >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks dumb, and something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] would >> work so >> much better. The @ symbol has been used as the seperator between usernames >> and domains by so many other services, that it only makes sense to keep it >> there as opposed to using something else. >> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Aldon Hynes < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Actually, XRI may be the better way to go, particularly since >>> >>> OpenID 2.0 includes support for XRI >>> >>> XRI format is already essentially the same as the format for names in >>> microblogging >>> >>> (e.g. @corp or =name ) >>> >>> Based on this, I like >>> >>> @ahynes1 @ahynes1/identica etc. to stay with the basic XRI format. >>> >>> I would leave the xri path up to the different folks as to what it should >>> mean. >>> >>> For those wanting to stay with an XRI format, >>> >>> @ahynes1 would be xri://@ahynes1 when in normal URI format. >>> >>> To test this idea, I set my XRI identifier =aldon.hynes/identica to >>> point to my identi.ca profile. Unfortunately, ids that start with @ are >>> considered corporate and cost $55/year to register. I did just register >>> @ahynes1, and am waiting for it to be set up. Then I can really test >>> @ahynes1/identica >>> >>> Thoughts? Comments? >>> >>> Aldon >>> =aldon.hynes >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Joe Cascio, Jr. >>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 1:09 PM >>> *To:* Derek Gathright >>> *Cc:* Laconica Developers Mailing List >>> *Subject:* Re: [Laconica-dev] Namespacing usernames for cross-platform >>> routing >>> >>> Absolutely agree. A URI is the only way. >>> I think the most compelling reason, other that being a well-known >>> standard already, is that a URI makes discovery possible. So, for instance, >>> I could be "http://joecascio.net";. Just like my blog home page declares >>> my OpenID server and delegate, so it could declare my microblogging server >>> and ID. This also helps to attack the problem of ID proliferation. The >>> individual sub-IDs I may be known by for email, IM, microblogging or >>> whatever now can be subsumed by one master ID, or as many as I want to have >>> to serve my various on-line activities, sort of like carrying multiple >>> credit cards. >>> >>> JoeC >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Laconica-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.laconi.ca/mailman/listinfo/laconica-dev > >
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