This looks great - can't wait to see it in action. FWIW, separate
namespaces and ! syntax seem most sensible to me.

Cheers,

Ciaran

Evan Prodromou wrote:
> Hi, folks. I'm hoping to roll out a first version of 'group' functionality 
> for 
> next week's release (just before MBC09). I'd love to confirm some design 
> decisions with you before I do.
> 
>    1. If you are a member of a group, you can direct a notice to a group, and
>       the group will echo that notice so that everyone else in the group
>       receives it. (Groups work more or less like mailing lists in email.)
>    2. Groups have nicknames, just like users, with the same restrictions on
>       chars and length.
>    3. Group nicknames are in a different namespace from users. So, there can 
> be
>       a user 'ubuntu' and a group 'ubuntu' on the same server. Alternative:
>       groups and users share a single namespace. This makes addressing more
>       consistent (see below), but means that we lose all the 'squatted'
>       nicknames on Identi.ca (we can't have an 'ubuntu' group, since
>       'http://identi.ca/ubuntu' already exists), or we have to forcibly seize
>       squatted nicknames. Neither is very nice.
>    4. Groups have profiles, more or less like users. They have profile data
>       (fullname, homepage, bio, location, avatar/logo), a profile URL (like
>       http://example.com/group/groupname), and a permanent URL
>       (http://example.com/group/id/13).
>    5. Remote users can subscribe to group feeds, just like they subscribe to
>       user feeds. The OMB 0.1 protocol can handle this just fine. Maybe in OMB
>       0.2 we'll add some extra metadata, like 'omb_this_is_a_group'.
>    6. There will be a list of group memberships on your profile page.
>    7. There will be a list of members on a group profile page.
>    8. Every group has one or more administrators who can modify the group
>       parameters.
>    9. We'll use a separate syntax for directing a notice to the attention of a
>       group. I think that '!groupname hey everyone' is probably good; I 
> believe
>       it's what Plurk uses. Alternative: we use '@groupname hey everyone', and
>       the software guesses whether you're talking to a user or a group (based 
> on
>       your subscriptions). The general feeling around here is that guessing is
>       bad. Alternative: if groupnames and usernames are in the same namespace
>       (see 3 above), then we can use @groupname for everything and it won't
>       matter. (This works more like email, where you use the same kind of
>       address for lists and for individuals.)
>   10. Notices directed to groups by non-members will be ignored.
>   11. Anyone can join a group (first implementation). We may have a flag that
>       lets admins' approval be required for later implementations; we might 
> also
>       include a 'block' feature here.
>   12. Notices echoed by the group will look like the group is the author. If
>       user 'fred' send '!groupname hey everyone', the notice will be resent 
> with
>       the author='groupname', and have the text: '♺ @fred hey everyone'.
>       Alternative: the author looks like fred, and there is some extra 
> metadata
>       that says the notice is 'via' the group.
>   13. Groups do not do anything with direct messages ('d messages', 'dms').
>   14. Groups will have a list of 'related groups' (defined by the admin) on
>       their profile page.
> 
> Feelings, emotions, opinions, furious denouncements?
> 
> -Evan
> 
> 
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