No, for the first project in a language, as it is the case here, the 500 most-used messages should be translated. Previously we required the complete interface to be translated for any further project in a language, nowadays it is just the "continuing effort" as you cited.
Gom-deva does not yet have the most-used messages completely, the link I gave shows which ones are not yet translated. 2015-03-11 15:58 GMT+01:00 Santhosh Thottingal < [email protected]>: > Hi, > > Didn't we relax the localization requirement as per the discussion we had > in 2012, initiated by Eric and documented at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy ? > It does not really say any minimum percentage, just says "There is a > continuing effort to *translate the MediaWiki interface into that > language".* > > What do you propose? I see gom-deva has 594 messages translated, 286 to be > translated. > It seems there is good activity at incubator and I happened to see a user > with 10000 edits there > <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Darshan_kandolkar&offset=&limit=500&target=Darshan+kandolkar> > > Thanks > Santhosh > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:59 PM, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Wait a second... > so we want to approve a gom-deva.wikipedia.org with the Devanagari > articles from Incubator? > But, the most-used messages are not yet translated < > https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=core-0-mostused&language=gom-deva&filter=!translated&action=translate> > (51%) currently. > > 2015-03-11 15:18 GMT+01:00 Santhosh Thottingal < > [email protected]>: > >> Ok, Since we do not have any disagreements, as per our usual process, I >> will inform board about the decision that we approve Konkani wikipedia with >> Devanagari script >> >> Thanks >> Santhosh Thottingal >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Gerard Meijssen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hoi, >>> I am a long time proponent for this. So yes PLEASE >>> Thanks, >>> Gerard >>> >>> On 7 March 2015 at 07:49, Oliver Stegen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have no inhibitions or restraints against making the >>>> Konkani-Devanagri wikipedia live. >>>> >>>> As far as I understand, current policy is to discourage communities >>>> from having separate wikipedias for different scripts of the same language. >>>> However, I'd be happy to see Konkani-Latin and Konkani-Kannada on the >>>> incubator. A decision can then ensue whether these projects then become >>>> subpages of the Konkani-Devanagri wikipedia (for example like Suebian, >>>> Allemannic etc on the Southwestern Germanic dialect wikipedia), or whether >>>> WMF makes an exception in allowing separate wiki spaces for those three >>>> scripts. Such a later decision, imho, does not prevent a live wikipedia for >>>> the Devanagri script at this point in time. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Oliver >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07-Mar-15 8:05 AM, Santhosh Thottingal wrote: >>>> >>>> Shall we make a decision on this? Community is waiting and they pinged >>>> me. I am all for approving this. >>>> Is there any more concerns we need to address? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Santhosh >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Santhosh Thottingal < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Vishnu clarified the request details in the below mail I quoted. >>>>> >>>>> (it came as moderation request to me, but I don't see it in approval >>>>> queue. weird ) >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Vishnu <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 01:32:27 +0530 >>>>> Subject: Re: [Langcom] [Langcom-l] Konkani >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Santhosh, MF-Warburg and other LangCom members, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, the current request from the Konkani Wikipedia community is to >>>>> make the Konkani Wikipedia live in the *Devanagari script*. It has been >>>>> mentioned in the request page on Meta and I have now highlighted it.[0] >>>>> >>>>> Of course, the community also wants the LangCom to consider incubating >>>>> separate Konkani Wikipedia projects in Romi (i.e. Latin script) and >>>>> Kannada >>>>> scripts - two other popular variants of Konkani. This will ensure that the >>>>> rich diversity of Konkani language and the knowledge in all these three >>>>> major script variants will flourish along with the associated communities. >>>>> >>>>> If I may be allowed, I would like to bring to the notice of the >>>>> LangCom members that CIS-A2K[1] has been putting focussed efforts on >>>>> Konkani Wikipedia and has managed to nurture and grow a volunteer >>>>> community >>>>> that is now sustainable. >>>>> >>>>> The multiple scripts (Konkani is written in 5 scripts) has been a >>>>> great challenge to understand and work with, especially when each script >>>>> variant is tied to specific religious and regional community and has >>>>> significant variations. We have left no stone unturned in objectively >>>>> finding a practical solution to this multiple script issue, including a >>>>> script converter. In this process we have consulted Konkani Wikipedians, >>>>> Konkani linguists, professors from Konkani Department at Goa University, >>>>> Konkani cultural experts, bureaucrats in the government, media personnel >>>>> and arrived at the conclusion of having separate Wiki projects for each of >>>>> the three script variants (i.e. Devanagari, Romi (Latin) and Kannada). >>>>> >>>>> We have also requested Fr. Pratap Naik [2] a notable linguist, who has >>>>> worked on all the script variants of Konkani language for many years to >>>>> give his expert opinion in writing, which is available here [3]. This note >>>>> has been widely circulated and everyone, including the currently active >>>>> Konkani Wikipedians (majority of which edits in Devanagari variant) >>>>> believe >>>>> that having three Konkani Wikipedias for the three script variants is the >>>>> way to go. >>>>> >>>>> *May I reiterate that the current request is to only make the Konkani >>>>> Wikipedia, in Devanagari, live.* >>>>> >>>>> It's been a huge personal learning for me about this rich language and >>>>> culture and I have some intimate context [4] on the multiple scripts issue >>>>> and would be happy to answer questions if the committee has any. I am >>>>> reasonably positive that we will see three active Konkani Wikipedias soon. >>>>> Having the Devanagari one live will only create a healthy competition. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Vishnu >>>>> CIS-A2K, Programme Director >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [0] >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Konkani_2 >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Konkani >>>>> >>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratap_Naik >>>>> >>>>> [3] >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Konkani_Wikipedia >>>>> >>>>> [4] http://www.sfxkutamuae.com/news.asp?id=8698 (I have since then >>>>> been invited to be part of the Konkani Language Planning-Steering >>>>> Committee >>>>> by the Global Konkani Conclave) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Santhosh >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom-l mailing >>>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom-l > >
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