I think this needs some discussion. I'm not really excited about it, but I think you could convince me.
2017-02-08 2:13 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic <[email protected]>: > Gerard and I were talking today about this issue. Here is the proposal > to be added into the LPP if accepted. Gerard's parts are related to > the traditional LangCom requirements, my parts are about the > organizations. Feel free to fix my English, add whatever you think > it's important for the amendment itself etc. (Asaf, Carlos, you are > encouraged to give your input in relation to the organizational part.) > > Note that this proposal assumes that both Wikimedia and non-Wikimedia > organizations would be able to propose a project for fast approval. > > * * * > > Fast approval assumes that the Language committee would approve > previously eligible first Wikimedia project in particular language > under certain conditions without necessity for the project to pass the > process inside of Incubator (which usually lasts at least six months, > but likely a couple of years). > I'm surprised that your proposal is to restrict it to the first project. Haven't such ideas come up in the past more frequently for Wikisource, when a Wikipedia already existed? (I recall some things proposed by Gerard). > > The main condition for fast approval is officially expressed support > by particular organization, which would guarantee that the project > would be viable for the next two years. > Does that mean the organisation should commit to edit the project? And what if it doesn't do what it guaranteed? > > Organization has to have the following attributes: > * Officially incorporated organization inside of the country where > significant population of speakers of the target language live. > * Annual and strategic plan. > * Track record of successfully finished projects. > * Commitment to transparent work. > > To do that, organization has to do the following: > * Translate 500 most common MediaWiki messages in the target language > to immediately show its commitment. (NOTE: I think that few hours of > translation job is reasonable immediate requirement; we could discuss > about it.) > * Present to the Language committee the proposal for the project. That > could be a program of editathons in particular area, targeting > speakers of one or more languages without any Wikimedia project. > * Give formal guarantee that the Wikimedia-related work with > particular linguistic group will last at least two years. > With these requirements, it doesn't sound too bad. However, when I think of chapters (or whatever) working together with a community to start a new Wikipedia, I always think of the Minangkabau Wikipedia, which started with some action (editathon maybe, I don't remember) from Wikimedia Indonesia, and which quickly got a highly active community, and was approved in record time (three months in Incubator, I think). Doesn't simply proving that the proposed project is good by achieving such an activity in Incubator sound better than first battling around with Langcom about the plan?
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