Yay, finally. Thank you so much for doing this. It took years!

בתאריך 31 בדצמ׳ 2017 17:26,‏ "MF-Warburg" <[email protected]> כתב:

> Good news at the end of the year: From Nurdin Kodzoev, the head of the
> history department of the 'Ingush Research Institute of Humanities'
> http://ingnii.ru/ I got the following confirmation:
>
> “We reviewed the texts from this project and confirmed that they were
> written in the correct literary Ingush language.
> They uses the current rules of grammar of the Ingush language.
> I express my gratitude to Language Committee, and I hope that this section
> of Wikipedia in the Ingush language will be approved.“
>
> Do we need a proposal for approval, or did we already have it?
>
> Am 27.12.2017 12:40 vorm. schrieb "MF-Warburg" <[email protected]>:
>
>> I really don't want to approve a project where really nobody could be
>> found to verify the content, in order to prevent some new Siberian
>> Wikipedia case. So far we always found someone.
>>
>> That said, funnily <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi
>> ki/Language_proposal_policy#Final_approval> says "If all requirements
>> have been met and a detailed investigation finds no unresolved problems",
>> but does not explicitly mention the expert verification which we do as part
>> of the "detailed investigation". So it's already possible to do this in a
>> different way if we really really want to in a justified case.
>>
>>
>> 2017-12-15 16:14 GMT+01:00 Steven White <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> In a way, Oliver, that just emphasizes my point. Everyone on this
>>> Committee is a volunteer, every bit as much as the contributors to the new
>>> projects. I don't think anyone can expect volunteers here to make
>>> themselves crazy with work, either. On the other hand, at a certain point,
>>> contributors to test projects are entitled to some resolution from us. And
>>> if they've been working hard, doing legitimate work, that resolution should
>>> be favorable, and shouldn't depend on our ability or inability to get a
>>> response from language experts.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm inclined to propose a new rule. Following is a draft, not a request
>>> for a vote, just to lay some ideas on the table for everyone:
>>>
>>>
>>> RULE (DRAFT).  To Handbook (committee), Final Approval, item #2
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee/Handbook_(committee)#Final_approval>,
>>> add the following:
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.  If experts have been contacted (per item 1. above) but do not
>>> respond, the test wiki community should be asked to provide the names of
>>> two additional (different) language experts, and those should be contacted
>>> as above.
>>>
>>> 5.  If those experts also do not respond, and at least six months have
>>> passed since the first request for language verification, the following
>>> procedure applies:
>>>
>>> 5.1. LangCom makes a determination whether it thinks the test project
>>> content is presumed legitimate. This is to be based, subjectively, on the
>>> length of time the test has been open, the size of the test, and the number
>>> of different contributors that have participated over time.
>>>
>>> 5.2. If LangCom believes the test project content is legitimate, a vote
>>> can be called. The project can be approved if 2/3 of all members voting,
>>> with at least five positive votes, agree.
>>>
>>> 5.3. Otherwise (or if the vote does not succeed), the test community is
>>> told that language verification has failed, and that they need to continue
>>> working on the test project for another six months, at which time another
>>> attempt will be made for language verification.
>>>
>>>
>>> Again, these are just ideas for now.
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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