Oh, so you propose, for eligible languages with ISO 639-3 codes, to have them all in the list "Request for new languages" on Meta, regardless of how inactive they are, but without necessarily any presence on incubator (unless some native speaker starts the project there)? Well, if the others agree, why not?

Cheers,
Oliver


On 23-Jan-18 11:28, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
There is a difference between rejecting existing projects on the incubator because they are stale and our consideration for eligibility. I do not mind having projects removed from Incubator. It has never been a real consideration of the language committee what happens there.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On 23 January 2018 at 11:01, Oliver Stegen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hm, I'm not so sure about that. If "once a language is eligible it
    remains that way" holds, why do we need proposals at all? We might
    just as well create incubator space for every language with a ISO
    639-3 code. While it is my vision that we will, one day, have
    wikis in every language, I don't think cluttering the incubator
    with projects which remain inactive for years is helpful. So I
    keep my support of Steve's proposal to mark projects as "reject as
    stale" if they were proposed by a once person without subsequent
    action.

    Fwiw,
    Oliver


    On 23-Jan-18 08:55, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
    Hoi,
    Introducing these codes is no problem. It has been agreed that
    once a language is deemed eligible it remains that way. When a
    new team comes along it may be good to check the standard again
    to see if something has changed.
    Thanks,
         GerardM

    On 22 January 2018 at 21:45, Oliver Stegen <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        +1

        I concur with Steve's proposal / line of argument concerning
        "reject as stale" vs "pending / on hold".



        On 22-Jan-18 18:05, Steven White wrote:
        Mostly, it has to do with the action date. I don't think it
        makes WMF or LangCom look very good to have dozens of
        projects that appear to have been pending for over five
        years, especially when the requester is someone who showed
        up for a day, or a couple of weeks, and then has
        disappeared. I think it's much better to make sure the
        requests that are pending are current ones.

        My intention, once I get to requests that are no more than a
        couple of years old, is to allow projects to remain "on
        hold" for 1–2 years, and only after that closing them. I'm
        figuring that if no one shows up in two years, we ought to
        move on.

        Finally, I do intend to make clear on such pages that a
        future request would be welcomed if a community (re-)appears
        in the future.




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