MF-W, you're right about that. My apologies. I was trying to look through this 
even though my browser doesn't render the script, and I simply misunderstood 
what I was looking at the first time. Like most of the other test projects with 
"enough activity", this test is still too stubby.


I am going to try to contact as many of the projects as possible to see what I 
can do about that.

Steven


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Chinese Wikiversity (MF-Warburg)
   2. Re: February 2017 Incubator Statistics (MF-Warburg)
   3. Shan Wikipedia (MF-Warburg)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:52:53 +0100
From: MF-Warburg <mfwarb...@googlemail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
        <langcom@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Langcom] Chinese Wikiversity
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Can we do something to make people register? Seeing the really high number
of edits made by anonymous users at <
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fmeta%2Fcatanalysis%2Findex.php%3Fcat%3D1%26title%3DZH%26wiki%3Dbetawikiversity%23distribution_2018-02&data=02%7C01%7C%7C20a1821927404e67645f08d5746bc6d7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636542928596870481&sdata=mb2ZdW1i%2Bl4lMlsQLe3RlAdvEq%2BEiIruuQka4AJegN0%3D&reserved=0>,
that would also be beneficial when it comes to selecting admins etc. which
we would want the local community to do. User:Javarobot (not a bot) is
continuously active for some months already, but e.g. User:Assoc is
meanwhile globally locked.

2018-02-07 20:11 GMT+01:00 Steven White <koala19...@hotmail.com>:

> I'd like to open this subject up for discussion.
>
>
> Chinese Wikiversity is the largest test within Beta Wikiversity, with 722
> pages (as of today). While the numbers aren't directly comparable, that
> number is higher than the number of pages in each of the smallest seven
> independent Wikiversity projects. Additionally, the interface translation
> is effectively complete in both zh-hans and zh-hant.
>
>
> Where there is a question here is on community activity. The truth is that
> LangCom should have approved this project around the end of 2014. From late
> 2012 through the end of 2014, this test project met the activity
> requirement just about every single month.  From then until late in 2017,
> activity was consistent, but not quite as high, with most months not quite
> seeing enough activity for approval.
>
>
> Since late 2017, there has been a great deal of activity, most of which
> comes from anonymous users. Now, I understand that we normally don't count
> in "anonymous" when looking for regular activity. But given the magnitude
> of the activity, the past periods of activity, the fact that even without
> the anonymous contributions there is almost enough activity to allow
> approval—and most of all, the confounding factor of the Great Firewall—I'm
> actually inclined to consider approving this.
>
>
> Please share your thoughts.
>
>
> Steven
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:09:07 +0100
From: MF-Warburg <mfwarb...@googlemail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] February 2017 Incubator Statistics
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2018-02-12 19:53 GMT+01:00 Steven White <koala19...@hotmail.com>:

> One has been tentatively approved, but is still pending language
> verification (Gorontalo Wikipedia). (MF-Warburg and Amir: Do we need to
> look for different experts?)
>

I've poked the Indonesian contacts again.



> Sakizaya Wikipedia: There is currently an issue with the language code.
> The code the community uses, ais, is not an invalid one for the language,
> at least for the purpose of running a test on Incubator. But the issue
> needs to be resolved more completely before LangCom fully considers
> approval of the project. The community expects to try to resolve that in
> next year's batch of requests at SIL. If anyone wants more information,
> just let me know.
>


Maybe you can write up an explanation (in a separate thread) if you have
some time; I remember there was a discussion on Talk:Langcom which I did
not read, but maybe those of us acquainted with the mysteries of SIL can
help with this request.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 03:01:16 +0100
From: MF-Warburg <mfwarb...@googlemail.com>
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Subject: [Langcom] Shan Wikipedia
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2018-02-12 19:53 GMT+01:00 Steven White <koala19...@hotmail.com>:

> I just completed an evaluation of what is contained in Incubator. Here are
> some details
> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTemplate%3ATest_status_statistics&data=02%7C01%7C%7C20a1821927404e67645f08d5746bc6d7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636542928596870481&sdata=2%2F4WqPiUEGO%2Fi%2BadhHAxLkSUYWdenu0%2B0MPwkpHFPRI%3D&reserved=0>:
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>    -
>       - One more is now ready for evaluation by LangCom (Shan Wikipedia
>       
> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWp%2Fshn&data=02%7C01%7C%7C20a1821927404e67645f08d5746bc6d7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636542928596870481&sdata=MoCGyDAyksGuElTqJVWJr6XGyWK5NWKbTdEDyrSachw%3D&reserved=0>).
>
>

 I have looked at the test-wiki (Wp/shn) on Incubator. The most-used
messages are complete and the activity looks ok <
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fmeta%2Fcatanalysis%2Findex.php%3Fcat%3D0%26title%3DWp%2Fshn%26wiki%3Dincubatorwiki%23distribution_2018-02&data=02%7C01%7C%7C20a1821927404e67645f08d5746bc6d7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636542928596870481&sdata=LREcW7xxX3uk3J9Zo7jABIjRpFZ2tuDHSe5e%2BFoSTKk%3D&reserved=0>,
however I looked at a random selection of pages (ca. 20) and every single
one of them contained at max. one sentence and then just empty section
headings. That does not look good.
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