I would like to retract the attached email as it seems like there are
actually no current request for a code for Hainanese that I was mixing
something else up with it

2018-01-30 TUE Phake Nick <c933...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One thing to consider:
> - In the previous code application, Hainanese was mentioned as a thing to
> consider about before splitting out Teochew. There are currently request
> for a code for Hainanese which will probably take some times to handle, and
> I would not expect request for Teochew to surface before that one get
> created
>
> 2018年1月29日 18:26 於 "Steven White" <koala19...@hotmail.com> 寫道:
>
>> OK. I'm assuming that (a) the concept of closing stale requests as I've
>> proposed is generally acceptable, and (b) that at least in the cases other
>> than Teochew I can proceed.
>>
>>
>> With respect to Teochew, I'm going to mark it as "on hold/waiting",
>> pending a language code. But if we don't see a new request at SIL in a
>> year, then I'm going to close. Please let me know if that is acceptable.
>>
>>
>> There are, in fact, a couple of other requests from 2010 still open.
>> There are two requests on different Balochi projects, which I thought
>> should wait until Satdeep finished his investigations into that. There is a
>> request for "Southern Min in Hanji," which I intended to leave sitting
>> until we had a discussion of when different scripts need different projects
>> and when not. But apparently phabricator T165882
>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165882> says that the community has
>> agreed to a namespace for Hanji, so this can be closed as resolved. There
>> is a request for Wiktionary Pitcairnese
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Pitcairnese>
>> that can be closed as stale along the same lines as the others here. And
>> there is a request for Wikipedia Chinuk wawa that is supported by a few
>> pages in the Incubator, so I'm going to mark it eligible.
>>
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:53:21 +0800
>> From: Phake Nick <c933...@gmail.com>
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>> 2018年1月25日 03:49 於 "MF-Warburg" <mfwarb...@googlemail.com> 寫道:
>> >
>> > Well, but it's equally true (and written) that "If there is no valid ISO
>> 639 code, you must obtain one. The Wikimedia Foundation does not seek to
>> develop new linguistic entities".
>>
>> My understanding on the description of "does not seek to develop new
>> linguistic entities" is that WMF does not seek to develop new language and
>> thus it would like confirmation from ISO standard regulation body, instead
>> of the code itself.
>>
>> > We do absolutely not want to invent our own codes, because that gets
>> really messy, especially when at some point a language does get a real
>> code.
>>
>> Why not tentatively use e.g. ISO639-6 code as a working code in incubator
>> or for the project before it could get a 639-1/2/3 code? after it get a
>> code in ISO 639-1/2/3 then it should be possible to move things over.
>> Although all the code change requests have been piled up for years in
>> phabricator but that should hopefully be sorted out one day.
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>> 2018-01-25 2:53 GMT+01:00 Phake Nick <c933...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > 2018年1月25日 03:49 於 "MF-Warburg" <mfwarb...@googlemail.com> 寫道:
>> > >
>> > > Well, but it's equally true (and written) that "If there is no valid
>> ISO
>> > 639 code, you must obtain one. The Wikimedia Foundation does not seek to
>> > develop new linguistic entities".
>> >
>> > My understanding on the description of "does not seek to develop new
>> > linguistic entities" is that WMF does not seek to develop new language
>> and
>> > thus it would like confirmation from ISO standard regulation body,
>> instead
>> > of the code itself.
>> >
>>
>> The best confirmation is that the regulation body gives them a new code.
>> Everything else is just in limbo and they could change their opinion
>> later.
>> That will be a mess then.
>>
>>
>> > > We do absolutely not want to invent our own codes, because that gets
>> > really messy, especially when at some point a language does get a real
>> code.
>> >
>> > Why not tentatively use e.g. ISO639-6 code as a working code in
>> incubator
>> > or for the project before it could get a 639-1/2/3 code? after it get a
>> > code in ISO 639-1/2/3 then it should be possible to move things over.
>> > Although all the code change requests have been piled up for years in
>> > phabricator but that should hopefully be sorted out one day.
>> >
>>
>> I wouldn't count on that. Temporary solutions always have a tendency to
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