On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Steven White <koala19...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wikipedia Pinyin Chinese > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Chinese_%28Pinyin%29_2> > (coded for now as cmn, Mandarin Chinese): Here's a proposal that I think > needs some serious discussion. Please read the discussion on the linked > Meta page. > > *Arguments against:* > > - No separate ISO 639-3 language code > - It is proposed that this can be handled with a script converter, per > (for example) T193366 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193366>. > - One respondent objected to such a project taking manpower away from > other Chinese-language projects. > > > *Arguments supporting:* > > - Extremely widely used, and much on-line work in Chinese happens in > Pinyin, not in ideographic characters. > - Proponents state (I cannot confirm) that there are many people who > are "illiterate" in Chinese, not having mastered 3000 characters, who can > potentially contribute to such a project. If so, that is closer to the > ideal of creating projects that "anyone can edit". > > > I would also note that several other Chinese projects use Romanized > Chinese. (All the min-nan projects are exclusively in Romanized > language—see Wikipedia here > <https://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A2u-ia%CC%8Dh>; Min Dong > Wikipedia <https://cdo.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A0u_Hi%C4%95k> has pages > in both scripts.) > > If this project is deemed eligible, I'm pretty sure that it should not be > coded with "cmn". (I can let it stay that way in Incubator for now, or give > it a q-code.) Test has 250 mainspace pages, and has been active > periodically. Last period of substantial activity was during summer 2017. > > I am going to hold back my opinion on this just yet. > I would support an effort to explore the use of LanguageConverter here (and for zh-min-nan). I agree that the language code should not be bare 'cmn' but should include a script suffix. BCP47 suggests 'zh-Latn-pinyin' as a valid code: http://schneegans.de/lv/?tags=zh-Latn%0D%0Azh-Latn-pinyin%0D%0A&format=text --scott
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