Let's not forget that the creation of new wikis is stalled at the moment for technical reasons. My motivation to advance approvals is not very high due to it, since I dislike approving projects which are active at a time, but might not still be active later when the technical issues are resolved but are then created nevertheless.
Am Do., 22. Aug. 2019 um 15:21 Uhr schrieb Steven White < [email protected]>: > I'm happy to wait for your proposal, Amir. Still, if there is something > that is going to require LangCom approval, there needs to be something in > the proposal that compels LangCom to act within a reasonable time frame. > Yes, we're volunteers, but so are the people who are creating the projects > in Incubator (etc.), and they deserve not to have to wait a year. > > I will also add that as long as I'm not so frustrated with the system that > I can stay active, I do watch the active tests on Incubator. Yes, it's > possible for me to be fooled by a hoax, as I don't usually read the > languages involved. Still, as long as Incubator/Beta/Old Wikisource are > being monitored, it needs to be a pretty robust hoax on the concerted part > of a reasonable number of contributors in order to make it all the way to > the point of approvability. > > Finally, then, is the tradeoff between avoiding hoaxes and being > responsive to new-project communities. The chances that such a community > is a good-faith community that is being hurt by delay are probably much > greater than the chances that such a community is a hoax community. So > while I think we need a chance for our due diligence, we should not be > allowed an arbitrarily long time to do that due diligence, either. > > Steven > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Langcom <[email protected]> on behalf of > [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2019 8:00 AM > *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Langcom Digest, Vol 70, Issue 12 > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 08:52:07 +0300 > From: "Amir E. Aharoni" <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Langcom] Proposed amendment to LPP (was: Final approval > for four projects) > > Sorry, no. > > No verification at all and simply assuming good faith after some arbitrary > time is asking for trouble. There already were cases of hoaxes in the past. > Not many cases, but they did happen, and we're talking about a whole site, > even one case is major trouble. > > HOWEVER, I absolutely do recognize that we have unnecessary and harmful > bottlenecks in the approval process, and because of that I'm working on > another proposal that will ease up at least some of these bottlenecks. > > I've just came back from Wikimania, and I'm immediately going for a > vacation until the end of August, but after that—expect surprises, > hopefully good ones. > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >
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