For now I solved it like this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Kamassian&type=revision&diff=20762189&oldid=20718584
Am Mo., 30. Nov. 2020 um 21:18 Uhr schrieb MF-Warburg < [email protected]>: > I would like to get rid of this request as well as most of those listed at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MF-Warburg/ValtteriLahti12#Requests_for_new_languages > - by get rid I mean: deletion. Maybe preserve the discussions somewhere > else. > We can also just mark them as rejected, but I would prefer if such > frivolous proposals wouldn't be there if some genuine interest pops up and > the first thing the interested people see is "REJECTED". > Thoughts? > > > Am Di., 24. Nov. 2020 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Kimberli Mäkäräinen < > [email protected]>: > >> As this language has not a single documented word that can be used to >> translate the UI and no native speakers left to create these words (this is >> not the job of outsiders), it will never be a viable project. >> >> Even a simple task like creating articles on the countries of the world >> is impossible, because the names of all of these countries simply don't >> exist in Kamassian. The 1600+ documented, actual Kamassian words could >> be taken to Wiktionary and documents when allowed to Wikisource. By taking >> words, syntax, etc. from Russian or other languages and claiming it as >> Kamassian, this will have a negative impact on any computational >> linguistics applications that use this material, etc. Claiming that >> Kamassian articles can be written based on having another Finno-Ugric >> language as one's mother tongue is like saying one can write articles in >> Hindi because one's mother tongue is English. >> >> I'm concerned that this does not seem to be understood, especially >> considering that this has already occurred with other languages that >> non-native speakers have taken upon themselves to "revive". There are >> already a number of incubator projects that need to be deleted because the >> community refuses to touch them because of the project's low quality thanks >> to non-natives with good intentions. There is, as we speak, a massive >> community-led effort to rid the Scots Wikipedia of the contributions of a >> non-native outsider who claimed to know the language. It is not mean to say >> so; it is a reality that needs to be understood. >> >> -K >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Langcom <[email protected]> on behalf of >> Valtteri Lahti <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:34 AM >> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia Kamassian >> >> Hello, does the kamassian wiki pages have to be deleted? The russian >> loans are very small in number because 1600+ words are documented. Also >> even if it cant get accepted, instead of deleting all pages can it be left >> like the enets wikiincubator, people can see the pages but is rejected. >> -ValtteriLahti12 >> >> Отправлено с iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >
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