Enter <und> then! :)

Phake Nick <[email protected]>, 24 Şub 2021 Çar, 14:45 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

> There are always some extinct, endangered, ancient, obscure language with
> text to be stored on wiki yet might not have enough maintainers to create a
> separate project for. Unlike Wikipedia or other wiki projects where value
> of their content are limited to user of those languages, wikisource can
> keep document of languages that are used by nobody nowadays and still be
> interested by international audiences. It would be difficult to put them
> into individual language wikis that when those text might not even be fully
> understood by linguists.
>
> 在 2021年2月24日週三 21:36,Vito Genovese <[email protected]> 寫道:
>
>> O_o Why do we have multiple Incubator-like platforms again? Multilingual
>> Wikisource is a model that has clearly been rendered obsolete by the
>> technical demands of our movement, so it -- and Beta Wikiversity for that
>> matter -- should be merged with the Incubator. Multilingual texts, if any,
>> can be kept as duplicates in each relevant project. It's not like Wikipedia
>> where people can work on and improve the content and maintaining multiple
>> copies would be problematic. WS is a repository, so it's perfectly possible
>> to not keep everything in the same bowl. Typological distinctions are
>> extremely controversial to begin with, and we are not exactly helping
>> ourselves with a container project that is not built on the ISO 639-3
>> system.
>>
>> Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]>, 24 Şub 2021 Çar, 13:49
>> tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> English is clearly and obviously wrong. "mul" or "und" are not perfect
>>> but far better (and "mul" seems to fit better I guess).
>>> Anyway, the multilingual wikisource is meant to be a temporary
>>> incubation so maybe we don't need perfect here as the point will solve
>>> itself eventually as the language gets its own Wikisource.
>>>
>>> @Gerard: yes title can easily be changed (or not used, whatever and what
>>> not) but here we are talking about the language of the sitelink (which also
>>> raises the question of the language of the website which is also "en" right
>>> now), and that part can't be changed by the user (and AFAIK is unique for a
>>> wikimedia project).
>>>
>>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>>
>>> Le mer. 24 févr. 2021 à 13:28, Gerard Meijssen <
>>> [email protected]> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hoi,
>>>> In Wikidata there is a property "title" is has a mandatory parameter in
>>>> the language. It is also used for books and other publications... It is
>>>> completely separate from the link to the Wiki .. it being English is
>>>> totally irrelevant, it can be removed changed whatever from the Wikidata
>>>> item.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>        Gerard
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 09:56, Amir E. Aharoni <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Wikidata is adding support for sitelinks to the Multilingual
>>>>> Wikisource.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a discussion there about which language should it use.
>>>>> Currently it's "en", which is not quite correct: technically, the site
>>>>> language of Multilingual Wikisource is English, but most of the content is
>>>>> in other languages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally, each link should specify the language of the page to which
>>>>> it's linking, but currently this is not possible technically.
>>>>>
>>>>> Until it's possible, suggestions to use "und" or "mul" have been
>>>>> raised:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#language_of_https://wikisource.org/_:_currently_%22en%22_(_phab:T138332)
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have an opinion about this myself. Does anyone else have
>>>>> thoughts about it?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
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