Hoi,
Eligible means that we accept the validity for the language to have a
project. When it fulfills all the requirements for a project it becomes
accepted.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 11:59, Trond Trosterud <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
> I agree with Kimberli on all points. Hijacker proposals and extinct
> languages not behaving like Latin should be rejected.
>
>
>
> Also, if a language is not capable of creating a wp, it follows that we
> should block wikinews as well.
>
>
>
> At the outset, one would think a se.wiktionary.org had a future, since
> e.g. fr.wiktionary.org has an astonishing se-fr part. Also, if the idea
> of a monolingual se dictionary would gain ground, se.wiktionary would be a
> good framework for it. But for now: probably not.
>
>
>
> Then to Gerard Meijssens comment " I take it that you mean that they are
> not eligible. For me that means that we will not approve at a later date."
> :
>
>
>
> Here I disagree. For Northern Luri, I see no reason why a "no" for a wp
> project today would imply a "no" at a later stage. The language has 4
> million speakers, if the world were a place with an equal language policy
> for all, we would expect it to have a wp version with 500000 articles. This
> is of course not the case, but at least we should not reject the
> possibility that some of these 4m speakers would knock on wp's door in the
> future.
>
>
>
> (or perhaps I misread you, and we agree after all). In any case,
> housekeeping is a useful activity.
>
>
>
> Trond
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> *Aihe: *Langcom Digest, Vol 92, Issue 8
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> 1. Some housekeeping (Kimberli Mäkäräinen)
> 2. Re: Some housekeeping (Gerard Meijssen)
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 02:31:57 +0000
> From: Kimberli Mäkäräinen <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Langcom] Some housekeeping
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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> Hei! Sorry for the long mail.
>
> Since the Northern Luri wp was closed, I think it would make sense to
> reject the remaining Northern Luri proposal on meta:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Northern_Lurish.
> Also the "Sumerian" incubator (Wp/sux) is back and should be nuked again
> and this request rejected<
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Shumerian
> >.
>
> This Wiktionary has no proposal<
> https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wt/yux>, but it was created
> by a notorious "Wiki hijacker" (to use a term from last week's Arctic Knot
> conference) who did not know the languages he was supposedly saving so I
> say nuke it. The wp version of this has already been nuked.
>
> Other proposals that would be sensible to reject:
>
> 1.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ter_Sami
> 2.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tundra_Yukaghir
>
> This proposal for Norn was rejected since it's extinct and has very few
> written sources<
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Norn>,
> which makes me wonder if this is written in actual Norn or some version of
> Nynorn or some other language:
> https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wp/nrn
>
> I think that the Northern Saami wiktionary project should probably also be
> nuked and buried as a lot of it was created by someone with no grasp of the
> language (cf. "Wiki hijacker"), but I'll ask around in the community if
> there is any reason they think it should be saved.
>
> mvh.
> -K
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> From: Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Langcom] Re: Some housekeeping
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> Hoi,
> I take it that you mean that they are not eligible. For me that means that
> we will not approve at a later date.
>
> The proposals in your mail.. OK
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 04:32, Kimberli Mäkäräinen <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hei! Sorry for the long mail.
> >
> > Since the Northern Luri wp was closed, I think it would make sense to
> > reject the remaining Northern Luri proposal on meta:
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Northern_Lurish
> > . Also the "Sumerian" incubator (Wp/sux) is back and should be nuked
> > again and this request rejected
> > <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Shumerian
> >
> > .
> >
> > This Wiktionary has no proposal
> > <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wt/yux>, but it was
> > created by a notorious "Wiki hijacker" (to use a term from last week's
> > Arctic Knot conference) who did not know the languages he was supposedly
> > saving so I say nuke it. The wp version of this has already been nuked.
> >
> > Other proposals that would be sensible to reject:
> >
> > 1.
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ter_Sami
> > 2.
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tundra_Yukaghir
> >
> >
> > This proposal for Norn was rejected since it's extinct and has very few
> > written sources
> > <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Norn
> >,
> > which makes me wonder if this is written in actual Norn or some version
> of
> > Nynorn or some other language:
> > https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wp/nrn
> >
> > I think that the Northern Saami wiktionary project should probably also
> be
> > nuked and buried as a lot of it was created by someone with no grasp of
> the
> > language (cf. "Wiki hijacker"), but I'll ask around in the community if
> > there is any reason they think it should be saved.
> >
> > mvh.
> > -K
> >
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