One stat that we should probably look at is how many projects we have in the incubator that have never had a request page and as such have never been marked as eligible. Some groups have used that as a workaround when they know their project would not be marked eligible.
mvh. K ________________________________ From: Amir E. Aharoni <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 11:29 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Langcom] Re: eligibility when there's no content in the Incubator בתאריך יום ה׳, 3 באוק׳ 2024 ב-14:12 מאת MF-Warburg <mfwarb...@googlemail.com<mailto:mfwarb...@googlemail.com>>: There is nothing that speaks against marking these requests as eligible. "waiting" can also be used, it will say "This proposal is on hold" above the comment from a langcom member. It's mostly used (I think by StevenJ81 and me) for requests that are like "this project should exist but I am not even a speaker of the language". Example <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_%C7%83X%C3%B3%C3%B5> I am unsure about how useful this really is, as of course a project is either eligible or not, independent of Incubator activities. Thanks. As I wrote in another recent email, I think that request pages of the "this project should exist but I am not even a speaker of the language" type should be *deleted*, unless there's substantial content in the Incubator or substantial discussion on the request page itself. "stale" says "While this request has technically been rejected, in reality this is a request that has been sitting open or on hold for a long time with little evidence of a community coming together to build a project. If a community comes together in the future and makes a new request, LangCom would consider that new request without prejudice<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/without_prejudice>." I don't think using this makes much sense. As above. A lot of these pages should be outright deleted, unless there's substantial content in the Incubator or substantial discussion on the request page itself. Creating a request page is easy, perhaps too easy. It's only worth any effort if there's at least one person who actually knows the language, or, at the very least, has *serious and realistic* intentions of working with people who do. If a request page of this kind is deleted, as I propose, a person who knows the language can easily create a new one, and it will be much better if the page associated with that person from the first revision.
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