How's that my fault? I don't buy from vendors that do such things because I know what I am looking for. I'm sorry that you happened to have chosen the wrong adapter, but you should take it back if possible. I agree partially that drivers would help the adoption rate, and I'm sure Sun is willing to expand its development efforts into said devices, but there' so many of them out there we just can't support them all. This is the reason I brought up the sustainability aspect, as Sun does not charge for licenses, only support, and even gives media out to most people, there's a problem with balancing out the money generated from support and other products, where it can allow development of new drivers for devices that are 5x harder to support due to many details being omitted.
James On Jun 6, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Ben Taylor wrote: > James Cornell wrote: >> Hi Yiannis, >> >> If you took basic economics you'd find out that there is always >> balance. Efficiency is key, and it is an understatement to say >> that supporting Broadcom equipment is inefficient. The lack of >> proper documentation is the problem, just as it has been discussed >> to death with Sun's older SPARC boards and OpenBSD, regarding NDA's >> and availability. Broadcom is an allusion to the old Sun way of >> doing things. >> >> Supporting equipment without documentation and/OR source (Neither >> will happen in a workable state based on prior dealings) is near >> impossible. Even with the most talented people working on the >> issue at hand, economically speaking it is exponentially more >> costly to support completely closed hardware, as it requires more >> developers, more man hours, more testing, and a slew of hardware >> acquisitions for the tests for multiple people no less. A lot of >> the people involved with the actual porting of Broadcom hardware >> through reverse engineering are hired by corporations who can float >> the labor bill. Sun so far is mainly interested with Intel, AMD >> and NVIDIA as they do not like vendors who provide no alternatives. >> >> Broadcom will not deliver binary for Solaris/OpenSolaris WIFI. >> Broadcom will not release specifications even under NDA. Broadcom >> will not release source. Broadcom will not support reverse >> engineered drivers or NDIS driven drivers. Broadcom will not >> support 64-bit computing except through narrow channel OEM >> dealings. Broadcom has always had bad PR with vendors who support >> and/or development hardware/software for multiple platforms. >> >> Nothing will change the fact this is impossible to support, I'd >> personally rather have NDIS support worked on than to try and write >> a crippled reverse engineered driver, they are less reliable from >> my experience than NDIS, and I really hate NDIS as it is. >> >> What's 10 bucks? Well if you live in America that's nothing, with >> the gas prices, the bad economy that no one will admit to, the >> rising inflation, 10 bucks can barely afford you two drinks at >> Starbucks. I'd personally drop Starbucks and opt for brewing my >> own, as I already have, and thus can buy better hardware because I >> am more efficient. >> > thanks. $10 buying a new mini-pci card gets me a locked up laptop. > Did you not read *HP WhiteList*. > > You may think you're doing everyone a service by pontificating the > way you do, but half the > you're just wrong.
