Sorry Simeon,
That is all miss informed bull sh*t !

* Ubuntu has *not* complied its kernel in real time mode as default.
* The RAM is not 'wasted' if it is helping your IO responsiveness
issues and as Desktops see very heavy IO usage these days then its
clearly a very good use of RAM.
* A real time kernel does *not* help in responsiveness issues but is
used for time critical situations such as embedded type systems and
will almost always preform extremely badly in a desktop situation
except maybe audio editing.
In answer to your question, yes you can put Solaris into real time mode using:
dispadmin -d RT which would be a bad idea.
* ZFS does not eat up all your RAM and you can limit it if you really must..
* IO bandwidth is the number one bottle neck on any x86/x64 system,
end of story.

Good luke writing a modern OS and software stack in ASM that is
non-portable highly architecture dependent and _then_ trying to debug
that.

Oh and you didn't even email the list, you sent it to me.
Please have a *clue* instead of misinforming people. You may now thank
me for forwarding your email :p

Thanks,
Edward.

2008/9/26 Simeon Nifos <archwndas at googlemail.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Welcome to OpenSolaris.
>>
>> Tip: Some times x86 IO controller problems can come from a BIOS bug
>> making a SATA controller run in PATA (legacy mode). I seen this
>> before. Make sure you have a up to date BIOS.
>>
>> In regards to responsiveness. Pick a WM such a Fluxbox instead of
>> Gnome. You may just find that it frees up heaps of system time to do
>> more useful things.
>>
>> ZFS root will really help you as long as you have plenty of RAM. Make
>> sure to kit your system out with as much RAM as you can stick in it as
>> its so cheap today. I would say 2GB minimum, 4GB+ preferred. You _may_
>> think this is a lot but modern software has modern requirements, your
>> really see the difference in regards to IO as ZFS will 'read ahead'
>> and cache into RAM, trust me !
>
> And what happens Edward when you need the RAM for other things? I would
> definitely did not like to see my RAM wasted for making my filesystem faster
> unless I have to build up a server dealing with heave disk IO 25hours per day.
> Don't you think that having a file system which eats up all your RAM
> is something
> like WINDOW SVISTA is doing? Eat up all your computer resources just to
> show off or to push Laptop marketing further? Of course if I had 128GB of RAM
> I wouldn't mind unless I would try to run some applicationg needing RAM close
> to 120GB which is not that uncommon in the area I am working with.
>
> If you want responsiveness, consider seriously an operating system with a
> real time kernel. Linux Ubuntu derivatives offer a realtime precompiled kernel
> with modules as well. I do not know if OpenSolaris is realtime. As for the
> filesystem what people say is true. Caching into RAM will definitely increase
> responsiveness. I do not know however what will happen if power goes off
> suddenly.
>
> Keep also in mind that KDE and GNOME are crappy. FluxBOX is even more
> crappy since it offers nothing with an awful alternative. Consider CTWM if
> you want to minimize the WM overhead. It is far more convenient from FluxBox.
> A lilghter alternative than KDE/GNOME offering at the same time a lot of
> convenience is XFCE. Even lighter is Enlightenment and E17. Both are highly
> responsive and give you a completely different look and feel.
>
> There is more about responsiveness. One of main problems when it comes
> to rensponsiveness is the fact that a lot of shared objects have to load
> when an application which links to too many of them starts executing 
> (firefox).
> Most Unix applications link to libc which is huge, The same code linked to
> a tiny libc library (there are rojects like that, others written in
> assembly) may
> become 10 to 30 times smaller in size. This means that we could have 
> potentially
> the same functionality fitting in 10-20 times less disk space. Can you 
> imagine ?
> an 10GB operating system recompiled to become 500MB in size? Yeah that's
> true. But nobody is deciding to start such a project. No huge DVD isos
> to download
> no caches filled up with crap, no too many huge shared objects
> (libraries) to load
> at start time e.t.c. Check the project www.menuetos.net. This is a responsive
> operating system you would like to try. Written in assembly enirely. Then
> you will understand what we are missing.
>
> There is something awkward about Solaris. This is JAVA along with really
> awful administration making your life hard. Especially if you come from
> Windows or Linux. Like any other Unix derivative documentation is awful
> as well. Unix guys are not bored writing 100 of pages of properties of their
> software but they consider really redundant to give a few examples, because
> they think they have explained in the manpage everything very well. This is
> not Solaris problem but a problem of UNIX community itself. Like a cancer
> that keeps growing. WIKI pages are trying to cure this but it is getting 
> worse.
>
> Cheers ...
>



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