well, we could say that css style rules don't apply to subclasses. I
argued for that earlier but everyone hated that idea.

A

On Sep 9, P T Withington wrote:

> On 2006-09-09, at 12:15 EDT, Adam Wolff wrote:
> 
> > This is expected behavior. The reason for it is not that edgar is looking
> > at its parent for the value of testdata, it's that edgar is also a view,
> > and right now our specificity stuff doesn't account for the more direct
> > applicability of the subclass selector.
> 
> If this is 'expected' it's going to confuse the heck out of people who expect
> our CSS to work like w3c CSS.
> 
> As I said in my response, Ben's intuition matches CSS.  Here is my equivalent
> CSS:
> 
> <style type="text/css">
> <!--
>        /* rule 1, specificity 10 */
>        [name="thename"] { background-image: url(confused.jpg); }
>       /* rule 2, specificity 1 */
>        p { background-image: url(w00t.jpg); }
>       /* rule 3, specificity 1 */
>        div { background-image: url(sad.jpg); }
> -->
> </style>
> <div name="thename">
>       <p id="edgar">
>               <span name="background-image" style="font-size: 72pt">This is
> a test</span>
>       </p>
> </div>
> 
> Which will display the background-image 'w00t'.
> 
> In CSS a `p` is effectively a `div` with specific defaults for css attributes,
> but rule 3 will never apply to a `p`.
> 
> > You can confirm this by switching the order of the rules, and you'll get a
> > different result. I assume that the applicability of rules with the same
> > specificity in CSS is undefined, but ours happen to roughly mimic lexical
> > order for now because we are using array.sort which I think is stable.
> 
> One of the cascade rules of CSS is lexical order.  Later rules with equal
> specificity take precedence over earlier rules.
> 
> > It would be nice to make subclasses more specific than superclasses, but
> > that would make specificity a function of not only the selector, but also
> > the node being selected, and that seems like a pain.
> 
> I think the idea of making a CSS tag selector select for `instanceof` is
> appealing, but it is going to confuse the heck out of people who are expecting
> it to be like a CSS tag selector, as Ben's example shows.
> 
> My vote would be to fix this now, before it is released in the wild.  The
> current behavior could be considered an extension of CSS.  As such, it should
> probably be indicated with a different syntax than the tag selector.  At the
> very least we need to tweak it so that a more-specific tag/class has more
> specificity!
> 
> 
> 

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