I'm not going to tell you guys how to do your job, but I am a die-hard Emacs guy -- as addicted as they come -- and I *love* coding Java in IDEA. The debugger is great; attaching to running processes is great and easy; and the constant-compile thing makes coding easier/faster/more productive. You get used to correcting errors as you make them; getting context-sensitive completion that tells you which methods you can call and their parameters; and to the "cruft detection" that points out unused variables, methods, includes, etc.
Add in the refactoring tools and the customizability and it's far, far better than any of the kludgy Emacs-based java tools. Yes - you need to set up your "project", but it takes 3 minutes and it's well worth it IMO. You don't have to compile in IDEA; you can point it at your build.xml and an external version of ant, but still jump to compilation errors and so forth. Also: debugging with print statements is awful. You forget how sucky it is until you start using a real debugger again. Just sayin. I'm happy to help anyone try out IDEA if they want to. gse On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, P T Withington wrote: > Same here, but I have _never_ found an IDE I could wrap my head > around. Most Java IDE's have to spend a day and a half parsing all > your code (after you have managed to either teach them where to find > your code or warped your code structure to fit the model they want). > > I thought maybe XCode would prove better, but got stuck right off > with the same old problem of locating and parsing all the source code > taking freakin' forever. > > FWIW, one reason Oliver liked Jython is that you can talk to the > Jython interpreter and invoke Java methods from the command line. > This is what WEB-INF/lfc/server/sc/sci is all about. > > On 2006-09-26, at 11:18 EDT, Henry Minsky wrote: > > > I still use print statements. > > > > When I want a stacktrace I put a line like > > > > (new RuntimeException()).printStackTrace() > > > > If gdb could debug Java code in Emacs, I'd use it. Otherwise, I > > haven't found a debugger that is standalone and easy to use and > > doesn't require me to compile > > my app in their framework. > > > > Does anyone know if there is a way for gdb work with Java code?? > > > > > > On 9/26/06, Benjamin Shine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Does anybody use a traditional debugger with breakpoints and stack > >> traces for debugging the compiler itself? Phill and I were engaged in > >> some intense code-reading today, which left me wanting to just insert > >> a breakpoint and get a stacktrace. It's just java, so this should be > >> possible, at least for standalone lzc, more complicated for attaching > >> to the servlet. > >> > >> -ben > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Laszlo-dev mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.openlaszlo.org/mailman/listinfo/laszlo-dev > >> > > > > > > -- > > Henry Minsky > > Software Architect > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Laszlo-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.openlaszlo.org/mailman/listinfo/laszlo-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Laszlo-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.openlaszlo.org/mailman/listinfo/laszlo-dev > _______________________________________________ Laszlo-dev mailing list [email protected] http://www.openlaszlo.org/mailman/listinfo/laszlo-dev
