I apologize to everyone for that. The mistake was mine. I just used a recent message that had Ben's and the list's email in it to reply to, and I forgot to change the subject line. It seems like my message got through to plenty of people, but I apologize to those it confused.

-Jason

Benjamin Shine wrote:

[This thread got started with an unrelated subject; moving to a new subject]

On 11/8/06, Jason Stafford < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ben and I have been having a discussion about Legals that he and I feel
could benefit the whole community.

It started with this thread by rcyeager:
http://forum.openlaszlo.org/showthread.php?t=7654

Ben responded to that post, and then expanded on it in his blog:
http://sbshine.net/blog/2006/10/open-laszlo-3x-vs-open-laszlo-legals.html

I responded to him privately at first, but have now posted my response
on that original thread:
http://forum.openlaszlo.org/showthread.php?p=25195#post25195

Feel free to chime in if you have something of value to add.


David Temkin responded here:
http://forum.openlaszlo.org/showthread.php?p=25200#post25200

And here is Henry Minsky's reply:
You're very right about the importance of unit testing, and that is one of the high priority things we are working on..

We just finished fixing code to allow all the known automatic unit tests to be run automatically in real browsers for both swf and dhtml runtimes, as well as a smaller but faster subset to run in the rhino standalone javascript engine. That excercise turned up some bugs of the type you mentioned, where object creation happened in a non deterministic order, leading to some bugs or differences in swf and dhtml behavior. We also have a tagging system to help
determine which tests provide coverage for which modules in the LFC.

I hope as the unit testing comes online and becomes part of every nightly build and part of every checkin, that the smoothness of porting swf apps to DHTML runtime will become exponentially
easier.


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