It's not that I disagree with the proposal, but in a way I mourn the passing of simpler namespacing. It seems like the orthgonal namespaces increase complexity of the run time, and part of me wants to see that complexity managed by framework authors - i.e. using prefixed names for reserved words so that layout becomes lzLayout. It's not that the proposal is bad from a CS standpoint, but that it steepens the learning curve of how laszlo works. It seems to me that telling people that what names you see from inspecting a node is what populates your namespace (like a typical object), not that some conflict and some don't based on an implementation you don't see.

However this is just philosophy and not pragmatism. If this proposed feature works stably and doesn't cause problems, it's hard to argue against it.

-j

On Jun 2, 2008, at 8:38 AM, P T Withington wrote:

I think this is a good proposal, since it should actually be pretty rare that you want to declare an attribute that ends up being one of your child nodes.

On 2008-05-28, at 13:24 EDT, Henry Minsky wrote

Sorry my message got cut off before I could finish it:

This is a proposal in response to this bug, which came up when someone named
a child view "layout", and got
unexpected results in a view.

http://jira.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-5799

The current compiler behavior is that it will allow you to declare a child
with the same name as an attribute,
as long as the attribute has a null default value. This unfortunately
applies to virtually every attribute
declared in the schema, so in practice you can easily shadow all sorts of
important properties in
a view or node, by naming a child view with the same name as a class
attribute, with no warning from the compiler.

This proposal is that we add a new LZX attribute type, "node", which you can
use to declare that
an attribute name can have the same name as child node.

So for example you could have

<class name="myclass">
 <attribute name="titleview" type="node"/>

 <handler name="oninit">
     this.titleview.setAttribute('bgcolor', 0xcccccc);
 </handler>
</class>

Then elsewhere you could say

<myclass>
   <view name="titleview">
     ....
  </myclass>

And the compiler would not complain.

The existing compiler behavior would be changed so that for any attribute
type
except "node",  if you name a child node
with the same name as that  attribute, you get a compiler warning,
regardless of
whether the attribute was declared with a default value.



Henry Minsky
Software Architect
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