Note to self, check if the SWF9 URL Loader API supports REST semantics...
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Max Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a great discussion! The fact is, the current component set needs > modernization to be more easily extensible, styleable, etc. It's an old > code base that's been brought along as the runtime has been modernized. > There's lots of room for improvement! > > Right now the OpenLaszlo team is focused on Flash 9 support, which promises > to bring huge performance benefits. As you know, rewriting components is a > big job and something do plan to do with the community's help. > > Of course, we'd love any contributions, even if it's just towards the > design. It would be great to get some more specifics about which design > choices you made, and why. For example, what about the existing selection > and drag/drop management didn't work for you? Were things broken or did you > just need to extend them? > > Also, it sounds like some of the smaller bits could be very useful to the > community, e.g. subcommands, especially if they are integrated into the LFC. > > It's really valuable to know what problems you faced with the language and > any APIs and extension points you needed so we can make sure they're > addressed in the next round. > > And yes, I agree fully about XML models needing to send a 'delete' event. > REST support is critical - what issues are you seeing? I want to make sure > this is working. > > Thanks for being a part of the community, and giving such astute feedback! > > Greg Denton wrote: >> >> I have no plans to open source due to (1) the time required, (2) the >> fact that my components are not complete and not stylable either, and >> (3) the feeling that since much of the power of the framework rests on >> (tight) integration with the special "xml model" layer it would not be >> as valuable to others. >> >> It would require a bit of work to redesign for less coupling between >> these subsystems (for "mixing and matching"). I also took a lot of >> performance shortcuts/improvements by favoring callbacks over events. >> The subsystems are all pretty tightly integrated: >> >> - recoding of form components for my own graphic look and to be data >> driven using the xml model code >> - extension to command functionality for execution and subcommands, >> tied to context menus and selection >> - selection management: tied to commands, extended tree and form >> selection, window activation >> - drag/drop: special dragger code, integrated with sink registration >> - xml models supporting "deleting" notifications, undo/redo, cross >> references/dependencies between objects >> >> Oddly, after all this work there is a hard show stopper for me: lack >> of REST support for SOLO apps :(. >> >> If you would like some input to a discussion of OL frameworks let me know. >> >> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Simon Cornelius P. Umacob >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Leonardo Mateo wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Dave Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Greg Denton wrote: >>>>>> A sympathetic note....#2 is a real pain. I asked the same question a >>>>>> while back. I wound up rewriting all of the component classes (using >>>>>> the base classes) that my app uses as the lz ones are so ugly and only >>>>>> minimally styleable (color, font). It turns out that the data handling >>>>>> for the components was not what I liked anyway, and I needed to do >>>>>> selection management, so it was inevitable. I had to create a whole >>>>>> application framework to do what I wanted. Lots of time. What I have >>>>>> now is valuable (in terms of functionality) but has to be closely >>>>>> maintained. I'm sure a lot of developers are doing the same thing. >>> >>> Do you guys have plans on open sourcing some of your components? Maybe >>> we >>> can work together on writing custom components or something... =) >>> >>> [ simon.cpu ] >>> p.s.: Any news on regex support for edittext? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> And /usr/games/fortune futurama says: >>> >>> Pop a Poppler in your mouth >>> When you come to Fishy Joe's >>> What they're made of is a mystery >>> Where they come from no one knows >>> You can pick 'em you can lick 'em you can chew 'em you can stick 'em >>> If you promise not to sue us you can shove one up your nose. >>> > > -- > Regards, > Max Carlson > OpenLaszlo.org > -- Henry Minsky Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
