Sure! as PT mentioned, there may be overhead for using the $path method
i'll direct you toward, for very large applications. There are a few
manager/registry based ways around this overhead, no problem, but the
conversation is out of scope to your direct question to get into -- in
this email.
Have you ever used the $path{} form of constraints? they take a
dataset:datapath pair and bind to a specific location in a dataset,
which will update when the dataset changes. From your code snippets i'm
guessing you haven't seen them.
if you have a dataset thus,
<dataset name="localized">
<string name="submit" value="(submit in another language)"/>
<string name="resest" value="(reset in another language)"/>
</dataset>
then you can set up a path constraint by saying,
<button text="$path{localized:/stri...@name='submit']/@value}"
and this will *find* the string node with name "submit" (be sure to have
unique names or you'll get mulitple nodes back and the expression will
be invalid) and use its value attribute as the text for the button.
more info is in the laszlo docs... i don't have a link to it handy, sorry
-j
cem sonmez wrote:
Thanks all for your replies.
But i just can say that i am inexperienced about css. So all along i
have thought to use dataset. The problem is to change the texts
dynamically when i set the datapath's src attribute during runtime.
But as you said ptw, itS more about skinning, css is more convenient
to use. I will look at it as well.
For the dataset usage. It may looks like :
<dataset name="dset" src="words.xml" />
<datapointer id="dpointer" xpath="dset:/language">
<method name="getMessage" args="textId">
this.setAttribute('xpath', 'dset:/language');
this.selectChild();
do {
if (this.xpathQuery('@id') == textId) {
var message = this.xpathQuery('value/text()');
if ($debug)
Debug.write("datapointer : " + message);
return message;
}
} while (this.selectNext());
</method>
</datapointer>
and i also can use it
<button name="button1" text="${dpointer.getMessage(1)}" />
I havenT just tried, but the problem is going to occur when i want to
change the dataset src at runtime. jamesr, the way that u mentioned
likes mine. Can you instruct a bit more please.
thanks all again .
Kind regards
Cem
2010/2/15 P T Withington <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Using a dataset is an equally valid approach, but I think it was
tried and found to require too much overhead. Of course, if CSS
is made dynamic, perhaps it will have equivalent overhead.
Perhaps the reason some people think of CSS first is because it
seems i18n is like "skinning" or styling your app.
On 2010-02-15, at 12:09, jamesr wrote:
> Would it not be more expedient to write a class, called perhaps
localtext, that takes a single field to index inside of a dataset
wherein a given real-world language sentence is kept, so that by
changing datasets you change all displayed localized text?
>
> Why use CSS?
>
> P T Withington wrote:
>> There are two improvements targeted for 5.0 that will help this
situation:
>>
>> LPP-8556 Add default CSS style properties to <view>
>> LPP-7359 Make CSS attribute selectors dynamic
>>
>> There should also be one to make it so you can load a
stylesheet at runtime, but I can't seem to find that. Maybe Max
and I only talked about it...
>>
>> With all three of those, it should be possible to have a single
app that will be localized when it is loaded. For now, you are
correct, you need to compile your app for each language.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> With LPP-7184 Binary libraries don't work in swf9 resolved (and
integrated to 4.7), we believe that LZO's are now fully supported
in swf9 for 4.7.1 (soon to be released) and 5.0.x (in
development). We'd welcome testing by anyone who needs this
feature. Grab the latest 4.7.1 here:
>>
>> http://download.openlaszlo.org/nightly/4.7/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2010-02-15, at 11:39, Raju Bitter wrote:
>>
>>
>>> All the internationalization based on CSS for Webtop (at least
with
>>> the version I've used) requires you to recompile the app for a
>>> different language. That's not too much of a problem, just
generate
>>> different versions of the app for different languages.
>>>
>>> It would be good to have dynamic CSS support at runtime, but a
>>> workaround could be to put all the strings into an LZO, with
different
>>> LZOs for different languages. That should work, shouldn't it? Of
>>> course you are limited to SWF8 and DHTML then, since there's
still no
>>> support for LZOs with AS3 based runtimes, as far as I know.
>>>
>>> 2010/2/15 P T Withington <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>
>>>> I believe some use CSS styles to achieve
internationalization, although currently LZX does not support
dynamically changing styles, so I'm not sure exactly how this is
handled. Currently, styles need to be pre-processed by the
compiler. Ideally, you would have your application server looking
at the browser request language preference and serve up different
style sheets based on that. It may be that people are using a
.jsp to do this kind of dispatching.
>>>>
>>>> In theory, you would write something like:
>>>>
>>>> <!-- supply style sheet based on browser language -->
>>>> <stylesheet>
>>>> i18ntext [label="hi"] { text: "hello" }
>>>> </stylesheet>
>>>>
>>>> <class name="i18ntext" extends="text">
>>>> <attribute name="label" type="string" />
>>>> <attribute name="text" style="text" />
>>>> </class>
>>>>
>>>> <i18ntext label="hi" />
>>>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>
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Cem SONMEZ