Hi Raju,

Provocative post as always!

Certainly we are interested in the mobile space.  It is why we have pursued 
DHTML and more recently HTML5 and adding touch-based gesture support.

But you know as well as anybody the "OpenLaszlo Manifesto" 
(http://bit.ly/9WiRl).  The OpenLaszlo team members who are paid by Laszlo 
Inc., have to respond to Laszlo Inc. first.

That doesn't mean that we and they don't wholeheartedly support expanding the 
OpenLaszlo platform.  We are very open to contributions and bug fixes that 
enable OL apps to be delivered to a wider audience.

I'm joining your group, and I hope that the group and the OL team can work 
together to make 'mobile' OL a reality.

--ptw

On 2010-06-06, at 06:45, Raju Bitter wrote:

> Looking at the OpenLaszlo.org website I read: "The only write once,
> run anywhere rich Internet application development framework". Nicely
> phrased, so where's my mobile runtime for OpenLaszlo?
> 
> OpenLaszlo has the reputation of a technically advanced, promising RIA
> solution - but to be always a bit late when it comes to picking up on
> new trends for the web, like mobile apps, iPhone, touch enabled UIs,
> etc.
> 
> Currently the outside view on Laszlo, OpenLaszlo and Webtop is: Mobile
> internet, mobile apps? Wo cares about mobile apps, we don't need them!
> Let's just ignore the global trend towards mobile apps, smartphone
> applications. Expressed in LZX:
> mobileAppSpace.animate("opacity", 0.0, 100);
> 
> Ok, I'm very sarcastic here, I guess. I'm not saying that there are no
> internal discussion at Laszlo going on, which I am not part of.  But
> then, try a Google search for the terms "openlaszlo mobile", and all
> you see is Orbit, a dead project launched in 2006.
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=openlaszlo+mobile&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
> 
> Hence, I'm considering to launch a separate project unifying community
> efforts to deploy OpenLaszlo applications on mobile devices. That
> won't be a fork of OpenLaszlo, but more a set of extensions to get
> OpenLaszlo running on devices, deploy OpenLaszlo apps as Adobe AIR 2.0
> apps, optimized application for the mobile Flash 10.1 player, etc.
> 
> Currently I'm looking for other community members or sponsors
> interested in creating such a project, all the source code  produced
> would be released under a more community, open source friendly license
> than the outdated CPL 1.0 used for OpenLaszlo (which I believe should
> be updated to the EPL, as recommended by IBM, the original creator of
> the CPL 1.0).
> 
> Feel free to join the discussion at
> http://groups.google.com/group/mobile-openlaszlo?lnk=gcimh.
> 
> - Raju


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