On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Brad Crittenden
<[email protected]> wrote:

> As to the fear that people will be unwilling to wander into the dark corners 
> of the code base for fear they will be accountable for cleaning it all up, 
> I'm not convinced that will be the way most of us will work.  Our enforcement 
> of cleaning up things you touch is not heavy handed.  Henning asked that you 
> have a follow-on branch but did not demand it as a condition of approval.  It 
> is simply our agreement that we'll all share, more or less, in the less 
> interesting chore of cleaning up after ourselves.

This isn't a fear I'm expressing, it's direct and indirect
observation; just today I had an anecdote repeated to me of someone
being told (by their mentor in the job when they joined) 'dont touch
that thing, you'll be asked to clean it up'.

> Robert I think your views expressed here are bigger than the issue at hand 
> and represent an idea that our development process, not just our review 
> process, is fundamentally flawed.  I think you need to find the appropriate 
> forum to make suggestions and solicit input from everyone.

Oh, I'm sure they are, and those things are being discussed.

I didn't think I was being required to do a follow on branch; but
henninge expressed deep concern about an interest payment on tech
debt; thats evidence that something is wrong: we have the tech debt
already, its a chilling effect to be concerned about working on things
which have tech debt *because they have debt*.

I have two things that are important here:
 - what to do with this patch
 - moving the larger discussion forward

The second aspect is already underway.

-Rob
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