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On 2/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Send launchpad-users mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of launchpad-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Unsubscribe e-mails (Caroline Ford) > 2. Re: Requiring full name to join ~launchpad-beta-testers (was: > Re: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]) (Neal > McBurnett) > 3. Re: Requiring full name to join ~launchpad-beta-testers (was: > Re: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]) (Vid Ayer) > 4. Re: Requiring full name to join ~launchpad-beta-testers (was: > Re: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]) (Matthew > East) > 5. Re: Unsubscribe e-mails (Sarah Hobbs) > 6. Re: Unsubscribe e-mails (Jeroen Vermeulen) > 7. my email ( ?? ) > 8. Re: Unsubscribe e-mails (( ``-_-?? ) -- Fernando) > 9. Re: Unsubscribe e-mails (Alex Muntada) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:04:07 +0000 > From: "Caroline Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Unsubscribe e-mails > To: "Matthew Revell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 28/02/2008, Matthew Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 21/02/2008, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There seem to be a large number of people sending "I want to stop > > > getting e-mails" messages. Don't these people realise what they're > going > > > to get when they subscribe to this list? It ought to be more clear > for > > > them. > > > > > > Any thoughts on how it could be more clear would be greatly > > appreciated! Perhaps we could have a message saying, "If you subscribe > > to this list you will receive at least five emails per day." > > > > There's a pretty big message on the sign-up page about ShipIt already > > so we could add it there. > > As most have non English names perhaps some overdue localisation would > help? > > Caroline > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:10:28 -0700 > From: Neal McBurnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Requiring full name to join ~launchpad-beta-testers (was: > Re: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]) > To: Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: launchpad-users <[email protected]>, HggdH > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:59:41PM +0000, Matthew East wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:21 PM, HggdH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:31 +0000, Matthew Revell wrote: > > > Matthew, this is exactly my point: if you trust someone to provide the > > > real name (but (can|elect) not to check it), then there is no real > need > > > to ask for a real name. I prefer to be honest also -- and this forced > me > > > to withdraw. > > > > I sympathise with your problem and agree with your position. However, > > I have the feeling from your email that you are eliding Canonical with > > Ubuntu a little too closely - I hope that the inability to participate > > in the Launchpad beta tester program has not affected your > > participation in Ubuntu. > > > > Don't forget that while funded by the same company, Launchpad is a > > separate project to Ubuntu and does not have common decision making > > processes. If a Launchpad policy begins to affect Ubuntu as a project, > > then of course the two projects will get together and discuss those > > issues, but it seems to me that this particular issue only affects > > participation in the Launchpad project. It's not something that the > > Ubuntu project has a say in. > > Yes, Launchad is independent and can set its own processes. I think > it would get more support if they made more sense, and as I wrote > before, I think resolving this sort of problem with a federated > identity scheme would benefit all of us. But hey, I think that about > a lot of stuff out there I don't agree with, and I'm pretty picky and > opinionated :-) > > But this is also about the Fridge, which is part of Ubuntu, as Vid > pointed out in this same thread: > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:20:15PM -0800, Vid Ayer wrote: > > I'd like to add my zero paise worth here because I believe a part of > > this discussion is indirectly related... it started when the fridge > > editors (I am one) were required to be a part of the LP-beta testers > > team and I offered to leave the team because I have been rejected from > > the team for not agreeing to the real name policy. One of the > > Canonical employees was nice enough to understand my points, take up > > the issue but was unable to change the real name policy, which I > > believe is the *best* way to lose technical contributors. > > Where does this aspect of the problem stand? Why do the fridge > editors need to be part of lp-beta? If they do, why does this policy > affect them? > > Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:55:38 +0530 > From: "Vid Ayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Requiring full name to join ~launchpad-beta-testers (was: > Re: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]) > To: "Neal McBurnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: launchpad-users <[email protected]>, HggdH > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 2/29/08, Neal McBurnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:59:41PM +0000, Matthew East wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:21 PM, HggdH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:31 +0000, Matthew Revell wrote: > > > > Matthew, this is exactly my point: if you trust someone to provide > the > > > > real name (but (can|elect) not to check it), then there is no real > need > > > > to ask for a real name. I prefer to be honest also -- and this > forced me > > > > to withdraw. > > > > > > I sympathise with your problem and agree with your position. However, > > > I have the feeling from your email that you are eliding Canonical with > > > Ubuntu a little too closely - I hope that the inability to participate > > > in the Launchpad beta tester program has not affected your > > > participation in Ubuntu. > > > > > > Don't forget that while funded by the same company, Launchpad is a > > > separate project to Ubuntu and does not have common decision making > > > processes. If a Launchpad policy begins to affect Ubuntu as a project, > > > then of course the two projects will get together and discuss those > > > issues, but it seems to me that this particular issue only affects > > > participation in the Launchpad project. It's not something that the > > > Ubuntu project has a say in. > > > > Yes, Launchad is independent and can set its own processes. I think > > it would get more support if they made more sense, and as I wrote > > before, I think resolving this sort of problem with a federated > > identity scheme would benefit all of us. But hey, I think that about > > a lot of stuff out there I don't agree with, and I'm pretty picky and > > opinionated :-) > > > > But this is also about the Fridge, which is part of Ubuntu, as Vid > > pointed out in this same thread: > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:20:15PM -0800, Vid Ayer wrote: > > > I'd like to add my zero paise worth here because I believe a part of > > > this discussion is indirectly related... it started when the fridge > > > editors (I am one) were required to be a part of the LP-beta testers > > > team and I offered to leave the team because I have been rejected from > > > the team for not agreeing to the real name policy. One of the > > > Canonical employees was nice enough to understand my points, take up > > > the issue but was unable to change the real name policy, which I > > > believe is the *best* way to lose technical contributors. > > > > Where does this aspect of the problem stand? Why do the fridge > > editors need to be part of lp-beta? If they do, why does this policy > > affect them? > > When I raised this issue in Jan on the fridge-devel list it was > because our closed list was being moved and we were trying to become > an open list. It was then that I raised the same concerns that many > others raised here in the hope of finding a solution, not turn it into > a witch-hunt and weed out people who dont use a full real name. That's > kinda sad and in retrospect I wish I had not pointed out the lacunae > at all. > > Vid > || http://www.svaksha.com || > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:36:50 +0000 > From: "Matthew East" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Requiring full name to join ~launchpad-beta-testers (was: > Re: [Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]) > To: "Neal McBurnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: launchpad-users <[email protected]>, HggdH > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi, > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Neal McBurnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:59:41PM +0000, Matthew East wrote: > > > Don't forget that while funded by the same company, Launchpad is a > > > separate project to Ubuntu and does not have common decision making > > > processes. If a Launchpad policy begins to affect Ubuntu as a > project, > > > then of course the two projects will get together and discuss those > > > issues, but it seems to me that this particular issue only affects > > > participation in the Launchpad project. It's not something that the > > > Ubuntu project has a say in. > > > > But this is also about the Fridge, which is part of Ubuntu, as Vid > > pointed out in this same thread: > > {snip} > > > Where does this aspect of the problem stand? Why do the fridge > > editors need to be part of lp-beta? If they do, why does this policy > > affect them? > > Actually, I don't think it's true to say that the fridge editors > "need" to be part of lp-beta. One of the team members, who also works > on Launchpad, is trying out the new Launchpad beta mailing list > function with the fridge team. However, it's not true as far as I know > that participation in that test is a requirement for fridge editors. > > As I say, where Launchpad policies are getting in the way of > contributing to Ubuntu, they can be (and have in the past been) > discussed. But I don't think this particular one does affect the > Ubuntu project, which is why it'd be a shame to lose HggdH from that > project on the basis of the issue under discussion. > > -- > Matthew East > http://www.mdke.org > gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:50:57 +1100 > From: Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Unsubscribe e-mails > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Matthew Revell wrote: > > On 21/02/2008, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There seem to be a large number of people sending "I want to stop > >> getting e-mails" messages. Don't these people realise what they're > going > >> to get when they subscribe to this list? It ought to be more clear for > >> them. > > > > Any thoughts on how it could be more clear would be greatly > > appreciated! Perhaps we could have a message saying, "If you subscribe > > to this list you will receive at least five emails per day." > > Why not put in moderation rules, that will hold the postings? > > In fact, I'm surprised they are not being caught by the default rules > (may contain administrivia) - perhaps you need to set this up, in the > latest mailman? > > Hobbsee > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHx4Eh7/o1b30rzoURAnIlAJ41ORaR5y96f9sVAW5sDV8FBrwlFgCg6B8e > 98fE1jcZkzQ2xpdt0U28s7g= > =9T6n > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:38:50 +0700 > From: Jeroen Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Unsubscribe e-mails > To: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > > Bruce Cowan wrote: > >> There seem to be a large number of people sending "I want to stop > >> getting e-mails" messages. Don't these people realise what they're > going > >> to get when they subscribe to this list? It ought to be more clear for > >> them. > > > > I bet they don't when they get a timeout and see this message: > > > > """ > > Timeout error > > > Trying again in a couple of minutes might work. If it doesn?t, and this > is > > blocking your work, let us know on the launchpad-users mailing list > (requires > > subscription). Include the error ID OOPS-789EA64 in your message. > > """ > > One thing's incongruous about that though: we're getting this wave of > unwanted subscriptions just when the timeouts have dropped to almost zero. > > > > Jeroen > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:20:57 +0800 > From: " ?? " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: my email > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > i want to get a ubunta cd,but my gmal cant get the mail from > https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ > > -- > this is jee'mail > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/attachments/20080229/324b2134/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:22:17 +0000 > From: "( ``-_-?? ) -- Fernando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Unsubscribe e-mails > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Thursday 28 February 2008 17:58:19 Martin Pool wrote: > > 1 - there's now a fairly big item on the front of Launchpad asking > > people to join the beta team, and _that_ page tells you to join the > > launchpad-users list, without totally explaining what that means > > -- > > Martin > > Huummm that made me think. > I suppose LP admin have HTTP logs... so they could see what is leading ppl > to the ML registration. > Maybe there is common beginning. Its just a matter of backtracing the > links. > > Can you guys pull it out, and let us know about it? > > -- > BUGabundo :o) > (``-_-??) http://Ubuntu.BUGabundo.net > Linux user #443786 GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB > My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net > ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in > advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. > Url : > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/attachments/20080228/7b63e2cb/attachment-0001.pgp > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:44:52 +0100 > From: "Alex Muntada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Unsubscribe e-mails > To: "Jeroen Vermeulen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [email protected], Bruce Cowan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > * Jeroen Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > One thing's incongruous about that though: we're getting this wave of > > unwanted subscriptions just when the timeouts have dropped to almost > zero. > > I'm sure that Emilio didn't mean that the problem are the timeouts per se, > but the message displayed along with the OOPS, being a timeout or anything > else. > > -- > Alex Muntada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://alexm.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > > -- > launchpad-users mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users > > > End of launchpad-users Digest, Vol 27, Issue 42 > *********************************************** >
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