[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:


Hi Vi,

Well, gee Vi, I guess we should just throw up our hands then and say that
no one can change things or solve the problems we have in society.  Sort
of like the "boys will be boys" argument, eh?  Like the woman who was
raped asking for it by going into a dangerous place or wearing
provocative clothing.  Sorry, I don't buy that line.  Do you think the
progress that has been made in civil rights and women's rights would have
been made if everyone simply shrugged and said the problems were
inevitable because of the nature of man?

To claim that the cops in the Rodney King beating acted within policy
guidelines is not only ridiculous, it is absolutely incorrect, as
evidenced by the emphasis on training and the use of the King video to
show what is NOT acceptable or policy.

And whether you want to justify and enjoy racist jokes is your decision. 
But I hardly think you can justify racial jokes by police officers done
over police radios while they are on duty and supposedly protecting and
serving ALL citizens.  Perhaps it's easier to use the "boys will be boys"
argument when you are not affected by this behavior. The problem is that
if we don't speak out against this then we all WILL be affected by the
behavior at some time in the future.

No, we can't change things or solve problems if we choose to use the
excuse that these problems are due to the nature of people and should be
ignored.  But don't kid yourself.  That kind of attitude is an excellent
enabler for the people who are a big part of the problem in society that
results in incidents like the King beating.

Bill

On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:10:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano)
writes:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes:
>
>Hi Biil  I'm not making excuses for these cops.  They acted within 
>standard police policy guidelines, so no ''excuse '' is called for.  
>As for racial comments and jokes, you must be one of the "holier than 
>thou'"  I am not an enabler, nor do I condone putting down other 
>people in a non-serious
>way, but the phenomenum exists and it is as old as man has been on the
>planet. I'm sure that blacks make "honkey" jokes, some of which I've
>heard and enjoyed.  You want to change the world?  Be my guest!  
>
>Vi
>

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