Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Many people don't take this report seriously, so I am just putting it here because I thought it interesting. Consider the source. Sue LEWINSKY DETAILS THAT WILL MAKE CONGRESS BLUSH; HOUSE MEMBERS TO PEEK AT STARR'S EVIDENCE **Exclusive** **Contains Graphic Description** While prosecutors in Kenneth Starr's office have not yet decided exactly what to include in their report to Congress regarding the Monica Lewinsky mess, one theme of concern is already taking place behind the scenes on Capitol Hill: How explicit is Starr's report going to be! House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde met Wednesday and agreed to send a small group of House members to examine evidence assembled by Starr's investigation, reports Thursday's WASHINGTON POST. The members hope to determine if there is any basis for the committee to consider impeachment charges. What will they find? A national television audience last week may have heard Kathleen Willey describe in graphic detail what she says was an unwanted sexual advance by the president, but, according to sources familiar with Lewinsky's tale, Willey specifics are Disney compared to the story the former White House intern relayed to friends -- including conversations caught on tape with co-worker Linda Tripp. There is concern on The Hill that the political scandal may very well turn Triple-X once transcripts of Lewinsky/Tripp conversations are given to Congress, or otherwise become public. As one senior congressional source explained to the DRUDGE REPORT: "No one here is looking forward to hearings on Monica Lewinsky's description of President Clinton's penis size." Lewinsky's graphic descriptions of what she claims was a sexual affair with the president has been the talk of the underground since the scandal broke. Example: As reported in this space last month, Lewinsky confided in Tripp details of a sexual encounter with Clinton that took place on the carpet of the Oval Office -- on the carpet of the presidential seal! It is not known if Lewinsky was exaggerating her contact with Clinton in conversations, but investigators have also been briefed on a supposed sexual episode Clinton had with Lewinsky as Clinton talked on the phone with then presidential adviser Dick Morris -- while Dick Morris himself was engaging in a sexual episode with a prostitute. Lewinsky called the session "Quadraphonic sex," a source close to the situation tells the DRUDGE REPORT. Dick Morris has strongly denied the episode ever took place. "If she's saying that stuff, the girl is really in outer space." Congressional hearings that may include these stories, as well as others, will be unprecedented in American history. The vision of congressmen exploring the torment Lewinsky said she went through after the president refused sexual penetration during one session, for example, is a nightmare scenario. "I continue to feel horror at the abuse of power and emotional anguish she has endured," Linda Tripp explained in a statement after the Lewinsky story broke. Tripp is set to tell-all to the grand jury in the coming weeks. What sex evidence will eventually be passed to Congress is a debate that has been under way inside of Starr's office, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. Starr's office is currently working on a draft report. Thursday's WASHINGTON POST reveals that the independent counsel's office has not yet decided whether to supplement their Lewinsky report -- which it hopes to complete within two or three months -- "with evidence suggesting there have been patterns of perjury and obstruction in other areas of the Whitewater financial investigation, or to treat Whitewater issues in a separate report." Sue Schmidt breaking news again... And anxiety is beginning on The Hill. "We are not looking forward to turning the hearings into the Jerry Springer show," one well-placed congressional source said late Wednesday. "We will keep dignity and decorum, we will not present anything pornographic to the nation." What evidence actually will find its way into public view may all depend on who chairs the House committee looking into the matter, who gets the gavel. "If it's Henry Hyde... well, there is no way he will explore sex in much detail," said a Hill source. Sentiments also echoed over at Justice. A staffer in Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder's office recently whispered: "This is about the law." But while investigators and congressional leaders publicly maintain that Starr's search is focused on potential crimes of obstruction of justice, witness-tampering and perjury, it's the graphic sexual dynamic swirling around some of the possible crimes that may have Capitol Hill blushing this Spring. X X X X X CLIFFHANGER Vernon Jordan is still waiting to see just what Starr's grand jury does with the conflicting evidence that has been presented before them. After Jordan testified before the Lewinsky grand jury a few weeks back, he told the cameras: "I want to say two further things. One is I did not in any way tell her, encourage her, to lie; and secondly, that my efforts to find her a job were not a quid pro quo for the affidavit that she signed. That's the truth, that's the whole truth, that's nothing but the truth." But the DRUDGE REPORT can now confirm that Monica Lewinsky told Linda Tripp quite a different version of events -- a version that the FBI caught on tape during the Lewinsky/Tripp sting. It is believed that Starr's team played the audio to Jordan for his reaction in the grand jury room. Lewinsky discussed what she says was Jordan's advice about revealing her affair with Clinton during a Paula Jones deposition: "He said, 'It doesn't matter what anybody says, you just deny it. As long as you say it didn't happen, then it didn't happen. You're not going to jail. You're not going to jail.'" X X X X X WHITE HOUSE FIRST LEARNED WILLEY WAS TALKING DURING ONLINE CHAT! **World Exclusive** **Must Credit DRUDGE REPORT** "Anything on Kathleen Willey?" I typed to a ranking White House staffer in an online chat last summer, "I've got the whole story." "Not familiar with her," the aide typed back. An exchange during an online chat that took place on AMERICA ONLINE Saturday, July 26, 1997 -- hours before this report first introduced Mrs. Kathleen Willey to the nation in a series of exclusive stories that were published over the course of several weeks. What is described here, for the first time, is the reaction by those working inside of the White House that Saturday afternoon -- the afternoon they learned that Willey was talking! The DRUDGE REPORT first noted on July 4 that NEWSWEEK ace investigative reporter Michael Isikoff was hot on the trail of "a woman who claims to have been sexually propositioned by the President on federal property." "...Then he fondled me," she is known to have told Isikoff, the DRUDGE REPORT revealed to its readers. At the time, even though this reporter had been fully briefed on the identity of the woman, Kathleen Willey was not named in the early reports -- pending further confirmation and investigation. The story remained a mystery to all but a few. "Willey. She's the one that has been talking with NEWSWEEK about -- " I typed to the White House staffer who had instigated a Buddy Chat via an Instant Message that day. "About?" typed the aide that has been with Clinton since 1991. The aide began the chat with a question on rumors the White House was hearing about a congressman. "Have you heard anything about Cong. Filner being arrested overseas," the White House staffer asked. However, the conversation quickly turned to Willey, a name I was preparing to publish after learning that she had been secretly subpoenaed to give testimony in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case. "No, Isikoff did not give me the heads-up," I typed. "He thinks I broke into NEWSWEEK's offices in D.C. and stole the story off of his computer!" "What's the story?" "The story is shocking." "Hmmm..." "I think I should just leave you with her name. Carville, Begalla, etc. would freak if they knew that she was out there and that she was talking." [The chat drifted to internal White House politics. The aide later returned to Willey.] "What's this Willey thing?" the staffer typed. "Alright. She claims that she was a part timer who went to BC looking for more work --" "Hmmm. Interesting. Are you sure the last name is Willey?" "Yes," I wrote. "I'm holding off my story on it, because of an urgent request... but will move very soon." "Willey just doesn't seem right to me. I've been here for 5 years and I've never heard the name." "Willey? Midlothian, VA? ... Her husband committed suicide?" I explained. "I'll check it out," he typed. It was at that point the senior staffer turned wordy, and panicky. "OK, I'll give you this bit of information. I just asked [Deputy Chief of Staff John] Podesta about it and he knows what it is and asked me to check to see if Isikoff was writing for it in tomorrow's magazine. He's not, but you knew that. You and I did not have this conversation. I just got a lot of people very riled up around here about this Willey thing. We'll talk later. Do not mention this conversation. Do not mention this conversation. If asked, I'll tell people that you had on your web page: "Possible Isikoff story on Willey" but that it's gone from your page now." [While the aide was typing this, several hang-up phone calls were received at the DRUDGE REPORT office in Los Angeles.] The next day the first Internet exclusive naming Kathleen Willey was released. White House staffers were so fixated on the story that they logged onto the Drudge site more than 2,600 times during the first 24 hour period after Willey was named last July, records showed. NEWSWEEK's Isikoff named Willey in his magazine 8 days later. [There were indications at the time that Isikoff was holding the Willey story for a book that he was planning to write.] The original DRUDGE REPORT stories on Willey closely mirror what Willey would later publicly reveal, 7 months later, about her Oval Office encounter with the president to Ed Bradley on 60 MINUTES. "Then he kissed me on my mouth and pulled me closer to him," Willey told Bradley. "And ... I remember thinking -- ... `what in the world is he doing?' he touched my breasts with his hand ... and he whispered ... 'I've wanted to do this ever since I laid eyes on you.' And ... then he took my hand, and he put it on him. A story that was first whispered to the White House in an online chat has ended up snowballing into the ultimate political nightmare. "You've Got Mail!" -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
