Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:

Indeed. We are mostly testing with english version. There captions fits fine into designed width.

And the same issue appears for Afrikaans language as well. I've said it before and I'll say it again. All modern GUI toolkits support layout managers. These layout managers query each component and asks for the preferred size and minimum size. Minimum size from all components will dictate the minimum size of the dialog or form, so no clipping ever occurs.

The results only look nice when the forms have according flexible layouts. In many cases it's not sufficient to only increase the size of a single control, and to move following controls to the right. Such a change should be reflected in *all* controls of the same "table". This requires that all related controls are grouped properly, by placing them into (kind of) VBox/HBox containers, or by anchoring.

In this context I really dislike the Lazarus anchored layout, because it does not enforce a systematic "regular" layout. When controls are added to a VBox/HBox, they are automatically alligned according to their container. Anchors instead have to be set individually for every control, with good chances for omissions, and without any chance of a quick (visual) verification of the existing dependencies.


VCL is very outdated in this regard.

I dare to disagree. Using the appropriate containers (panels, probably invisible) and anchors allows for the construction of very "elastic" layouts, which can be verified by changing the form's size at design time.

LCL is slightly better with more advanced alignment and sizing options, but a full layout manager support is still missing.

The LCL anchors *allow* for more flexibility, but their use is a mess, both in visual design (anchor editor) and in code (see anchor docking). IMO they are nothing but a misfeature, violating the rule "keep it simple" :-(

Even with the English language I often see captions or groupboxes or labels being clipped, because those dialogs might have been designed under Windows, but because GTK2 components are normally larger, things don't fit.

For international development it were desireable to change the language in the GUI at design time, in order to verify a constructed.

We should consider a major update of the layout handling in one of the next versions, taking into account docking managers. As already mentioned, a docking manager is more a layout manager, the issues with dragging and docking are almost handled in the drag manager. The only difference between an dock tree and other tree-style layout managers is the distribution of the available or required space to the layout zones or containers.

DoDi


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