Florian Klaempfl pisze:
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
2009/11/29 Florian Klaempfl <[email protected]>:
Do you really think we should care about people looking at version
numbers? Wine took years to get 1.0 and people used it, one of the
greatest emulators (qemu) is still at 0.11 having a quality Borland had
selled as version "2007".
And who are they targeting? Linux and Unix users which as I already
mentioned, do not care much about version numbers. Lazarus targets
Mac, Windows, Linux etc.... Most of those targets DO care about
version numbers, even thought it might only be psychological.
Being honest, should an OSS project care about users looking at version
numbers? The most important thing for an OSS project are contributors,
no more, no less (don't tell me that a person/company selecting software
by version number will ever contribute to an OSS project ...).
If You want to do professional project You should care about users. In
businesses then most valuable thins are client, not only because they
bought, but much more because business can learn from. Every hard,
difficult client is important, because what firm can learn from it, can
sell others.
If Lazarus, FPC and others don't want to be a toy (and I believe then
don't) then should care about some users. Contribute its not only
patch, but also bugs etc.. Firms which want to switch to Lazarus always
make contribution, of course not all contribution are valuable nor
accepted, but developers can choose, whats they like. Without those,
developers can't resolve some problems. Persons which do not any
contribution, are not problem also (You are happy when You have more
downloads)
Why professional should choose this project for ground of its core ,
if even developers don't believe they are ready.
We not discuss about different between version 1.0 and 2.0, but between
ready (1.0) and not ready (0.x). For persons that selecting software
this is
significant. And every OSS project should't discard them (should discard
every bad contribution)
And for
contributors a serious and defined development modell is import and not
some marketing speech.
Some marketing speech yes, but as You say on other post publish 1.0
version any API can change. Some users not accept those insecurity
Any steps taken to reduce bad publicity is a good thing. Seeing
comments like the ones I mentioned in my first post is what stops
potential developers from trying Lazarus, even though the original
poster of that comment didn't really give Lazarus a fair chance.
Do you really want such people using lazarus :)? They'll waste our time
with whinning, no more no less.
You simply ignore those whinnying, You don't give any promise, phone etc.
Developers read those comments and take it as fact and simply stay
away from Lazarus.
Clearly you know the benefits of version numbers, otherwise FPC would
still have been at v0.x!
It took FPC also eight years to reach 1.0 and it was clearly feature
driven: TP compatibility as far as possible.
Of course. But not 100%. Some of them You implement after. An even today
its not 100%, but those left are not important.
Lazarus is much harder. After years of development its not close to
ideal, because ideal was changed. An I suppose that after some years
will be the same. Or worse: ideal Lazarus will not be ideal for users,
because expectation will change.
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Darek
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