Michael Van Canneyt schrieb:

IMO it's quite simple. A layout affects the position of child controls inside a container control, nothing else. Borders, Constraints and Autosize are general properties of all controls, which must be handled in/by the control itself.

I agree for Constraints, but not the other two.

It is in contradiction with what Mattias said, where he claimed that
when doing layouting you must always work inside-out and outside-in.
Borderspacing IS used when layouting: it determines the available space
for childs inside/outside the control.

The control determines its client extent from given bounds, by taking into account its specified border style. A layout manager has no idea of such borders, bevels etc., and also not of the visible rectangle of a TScrollingWindowControl.

Autosize as well: if autosize is true, then the size of the control
changes, and therefor the layout internal to the control, but also externally. Hence it belongs in the layouter.

In the simplest case the layouter has not to care about autosize at all. The control determines its required extent, based on e.g. font size and nationalized text, and reports it as its required extent. There is nothing beyond that extent that a layout manager has to know about.

Only when a control can adopt itself to different *given* extents, by e.g. breaking its content into multiple lines, a layout manager has to split the available extent into zones for the client controls. Such a layout manager would accept an extent in one direction, and calculate the resulting extent in the other direction, or spread the client controls evenly. This is a different behaviour from the beforementioned Autosize of controls with no child controls.


IMHO a control needs only 5 properties: top/left/width,height and
constraints. All the rest is layouting.

You mean that every control should have borders or bevels, as specified by the layout manager? How should such a manager know about different border styles for its client controls?

DoDi


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