Bee Jay wrote:
On 18 Mei 2010, at 01:42, Myles Wakeham wrote:
Agreed. PHP is a 'staple' in web development, and is benefited by a large
number of mature frameworks supporting multiple design patterns, IDEs in
large deployments (ie. Eclipse, Netbeans, etc.) and a huge community.
Well... with pascal you got Lazarus or Delphi, VCL or LCL, and also both
community.
However with that said, we are about to embark of developing much of our
shipped application software in FPC/Lazarus simply because there is no way
to protect our source code when provided to a client for them to host on
their own servers. This is a big weakness of PHP in general - sure there
are obfuscation solutions out there, but I'm yet to find anything that I
would be 100% happy with that my source is protected entirely. Plus the
performance degredation for PHP apps (if PHP wasn't slow enough in its
default installation) affects my client's productivity.
Use pascal then. You just need to learn JS UI framework, my advice: ExtJS or
Qooxdoo, for a while, perhaps about 1-2 weeks. Combine it with pascal on the
server side. It would save you lots of time and work, especially since you
already got the desktop version running
I think there is a really good place for BOTH FPC/Lazarus/Delphi web apps
AND PHP apps. I don't see them as mutually exclusive here. Many of our
clients want to tweak the web pages that we serve and by using tools like
Smarty, etc. in PHP I can give them access to the app and let them loose on
their own sites without too much fear of disaster. Of course, never say
never....
I've made several web apps using pascal. Never need to use PHP. :)
I think the traditional barrier has been the deployment issue which probably
made pascal based web application or servers more common to workgroup/intranet
applications.
With VPS servers, that's all changing.
Some are extremely cheap, depending on the level of service you want:
http://www.webkeepers.com/vps/vps_lite.html
The problem I think has also been lack of a central and openly available (open
source?) framework to rally around for web development in pascal in order to
foster an eco-system like we see with traditional 3rd party components and
libraries.
I've been playing with javascript (particularly the dojo framework) a lot lately
and its really not that bad once you get used to the loosey goosey weak typing
and creating function objects on the fly as parameters to functions, etc.
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Warm Regards,
Lee
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