On 27 September 2010 11:13, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > 2> If the patch needs improvement, then it will be said and it looses > this target unless a new patch is provided.
I know you distinguished between feature and patch to cover yourself with how the process works. So the feature aspect is still left unknown. Either way, lets take one example, where I think I did everything I could, but got nowhere. I implemented a feature (global file filters config screen), got feedback, made changes, submitted another patch, got feedback, discussed my reasons for implementation.... then...nothing further is said or done. Feature and patches just gaining dust - and probably doesn't even apply to the latest code anymore. http://mantis.freepascal.org/view.php?id=15679 Similar thing happened to other patches too... > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Development_Process#What_we_are_planing_to_do Telling us what is planned for 1.0 or 1.2 means nothing. As far as I'm concerned, those versions will never happen. GTK1 was a planned for 1.0...Lazarus releases took so long GTK2 was implemented...Lazarus releases took so long GTK2 became the default.... Lazarus releases took so long, now GTK1 is marked as deprecated even before 1.0 was reached. > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_0.9.30_todo (not very Now this is the information I'm talking about, but it is so vague and outdated, it also means nothing. No target release date or nothing, so no real goals to strive for. Maybe the core developers don't know about this page, or there is simply no coordination between core developers. Everybody developing in there own little bubble doesn't do the project any good. Even looking at previous release "todo" wiki pages, there are still many items not completed, yet releases were made. So these todo pages seems more like subtle hints or suggestions, than a clear plan or roadmap. As for the release notes wiki page, that is things that have already been done, not things that was planned for 0.9.30. > One can just ask. I think that all features which were planned for > 0.9.30 were already done. The only things left are: It should be published, not only given on request. But now you answered by questions anyway, nobody has a clue what's going on. I consider you one of the core team members, so expected you to know what was the goals of the next release, yet you don't know or are uncertain regarding what features or bugfixes were supposed to make it in 0.9.30. > 1> Wait for FPC 2.4.2 Why? Lazarus is an independent project from FPC. Surely if the 0.9.30 release is based off the fpc "stable" fixes branch that should be fine. Do you guys time Lazarus releases based on GDB releases too? After all, GDB is just as important as FPC is to Lazarus. Anyway, I'll discontinue this discussion because I think we have all been down this road before, and we know the road leads nowhere. If you want to continue, email me in private. -- Regards, - Graeme - _______________________________________________ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net:8080/fpgui/ -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list [email protected] http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
