On 06/3/11 8:40, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 04:26:14PM +0000, Howard Page-Clark wrote:
>> I'm not wanting to complain, rather to raise the question if now is not
>> a good time to take stock of the erratic menu growth and changes over
>> the past few years, and as Juha suggests, refactor it constructively.
>
> The trouble is that the Delphi layout is burned into the minds of
many after
> 15 years. Deviating too far is unconstructive.
>
Point taken. However, Juha is proposing adding a main menu item which
Delphi already has (well, not the XE Starter, but the others) and which
Lazarus currently lacks, i. e. improving compatibility.
Also, the subitems in any given menu are often already quite divergent
between Delphi and Lazarus. For instance:
D 2010 Edit XE Starter Edit Lazarus Edit
-------------- --------------- ---------------
Undo Undo Undo
Redo Redo Redo
Format Source --------------- ---------------
--------------- Cut Cut
Cut Copy Copy
Copy Paste Paste
Paste Delete ---------------
Delete Select All Indent selection
Select All --------------- Unindent selection
--------------- Align to Grid Enclose selection...
Align to Grid Bring to Front Comment selection
Bring to Front Send to Back Uncomment selection
Send to Back Toggle comment
Align... Insert $IFDEF
Size... Sort selection
Scale... ---------------
Tab Order... Uppercase selection
Create Order... Lowercase selection
Flip Children > Tabs to spaces in selection
Lock Controls Break lines in selection
---------------
Select >
---------------
Insert from Character Map
Insert text >
---------------
Complete code
Extract procedure
After 'Paste' there is no correspondence that is in any way helpful if
you've memorised Delphi's menu order. So surely if reordering items (or
moving them to another menu, or renaming them) can be shown to be a
widely welcomed improvement, I see no reason to refuse consideration
simply because Delphi's menu differs. It's never been identical, and
with the superiority of quite a bit of Lazarus' functionality, I think a
well-considered Lazarus menu structure that takes account of logicality,
cross-platform considerations and internationalisation issues could show
Delphi the way, since Lazarus is not constrained by a Windows-only
history. Though I agree that gratuitous departure from the Delphi
pattern for its own sake is pointless.
H
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