On Sun, 4 Sep 2005, Dean Zobec wrote:

> Michael Van Canneyt ha scritto:
> 
> > CMS is something that should sit on top of a good web-engine. First we
> > need the web-engine.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> of course.
> 
> > > But obviusly this is not a work at the core developers level. I've
> > > seen that
> > > the community is growing after the 2.0 release, so let's hope that a
> > > team in
> > > the community would get formed to pursue this goal.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > That is so, but since no-one has spontaneously jumped up and offered to
> > implement it for inclusion in FPC :) , I will have to do it myself. I need
> > something ready by december. But Intraweb is not targeted for december, it
> > would take me too far.
> > 
> > But any help is of course appreciated.
> > 
> > 
> I'm sure you'll find some good help, 90% of applications today is web based,

I beg to differ here. I haven't seen a single good web-application.


> so it's surely of interest for many. My spare time is already booked till the
> end of september (btw we have the Open Office Org conference in the near city
> of Koper - Capodistria http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference/ at the end
> of september, so it will take some of my precious spare time). But afterwards
> I'll be glad to help. I suggest to keep the community informed in the wiki, so
> others could offer help on the project.
> 
> > Current plan:
> > 
> > 1. Collect and re-organize the available stuff in the FCL. 
> > There are some things implemented already, but scattered. They should
> > be unified.
> > 
> > 2. Implement a set of HTML-producing classes based on DOM.
> > 
> > 3. Rework the current TWebDatamodule of Lazarus to use these classes.
> > (The usage is optional, but using it ensures valid HTML)
> > 
> > 4. Implement template engine.
> > 
> > 5. Incorporate templating engine in TWebDatamodule
> > 
> > 6. Implement some auxiliary classes for producing HTML from TDatasets
> > (tables/forms), template-aware
> > 
> > [Private: 7. Produce a web-application (web shop/showcase) with all this.]
> > 
> > Steps 1-6 will be put in the FCL.
> > 
> > In the far future:
> > 
> > 8,9 :  Support a standalone webserver binary, Apache module.
> > 
> > 10. Start Intraweb-like component suite.  
> > 8,9 are prerequisites for this. Intraweb won't work with CGI.
> > 
> > And of course, work on the rest of FPC. 
> > 
> > 
> 
> a good and demanding plan indeed, but when Michael starts something he goes
> straight to the target :)
> If you are planning to do some xml marshalling of objects (automatic reading
> and writing of objects and complex object structures through the use of rtti)

No plans in this direction exist yet, 
Not surprising, because I don't have a clue what you're talking about =-)

> there is a framework that could be reused or at least usefull for some ideas
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/camelos/EOS/fpcEOS/.
> It already  works with fpc, but has to be simplified a bit.

If you think it can be useful, I'll have a look.

Michael.

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