On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, David Lyon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Recently, my customers have taken me into the world of Python....
>
> After initial doubts I have come to see how nice that language is.... :-)
>
> But this isn't a python-sales talk.....
>
> Just suggesting that python isn't so different from object pascal.
>
> If somebody hasn't thought of "ripping" the nice features of python into
> fpc, then they seriously should start looking at it.
>
> Lets look at some similarities:
>
> Object Oriented : Python = Yes, FPC = Yes
> Has Strings : Python = Yes, FPC = Yes
> Multiplatform: Python = Yes, FPC = Yes
>
> Both are used for similar jobs, aimed at similar markets (corporate users ?
> who need cross platform capability). So python and fpc are really competitors.
> Python has some really nice advantages... but not so many.
>
> Python is a "rip" of all the good stuff from all the other languages.
>
> I really suggest that somebody looks at what python "goodies" can
> reasonably be implemented within fpc.
>
> Like, dictionaries, queues, ftplib, smtplib, regex and not much more
> than that....
These exist, they have nothing to do with the language, but are simply
libraries which are distributed by default.
>
> I get the impression that Codegear are planning to drop delphi at some
> point.. moving to php etc... But with some (significant) library
> changes.. (like some of those already in place).... I think that
> lazarus/fpc could go on to the next level....
>
> After usine python, one thing i like is the speed. Interpreted is great.
>
> But hey ? we have Delphi-Web-Script (DWS2) also... how nice to be able to
> fpcionise DWS to support fpc syntax.
>
> That way, we wouldn't have to go on holidays while we are compiling.
>
> So in summary, here are my suggestions:
>
> - introduce pythonic libraries for ftp smtp dictionaries and
> all the other stuff that python does so very nicely.
They exist: Indy, Synapse, ICS, LNet. Dictionaries (or haslists) are
in contnrs.
>
> - port over DelphiWebScript to support FPC syntax. So that
> now we have a really quick development environment.
DWS is old and outdated; Remobjects pascalscript compiles with
FPC and is much stronger.
>
> - provide pythonic level xml support (achievable via classes)
This exists. Sax, XPath, DOM. What more do you need ?
Michael.
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