Hallo Marti,
I tried it.

It does something, but in the end the data looks complete
different than using the same profiles with the "jpegicc.exe".
With "jpegicc.exe" I used the printer.icm and the proofer.icm directly!
With "icc2ps.exe" I used your Idea!

I will play arround with it this evening and
look what happens if I print out on a Inkjet-Printer.

Regards
Thomas

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] ICC2PS (27-Mai-2003 16:52)
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Hi,
> 
> After thinking a bit... an idea. Not sure it it would work,
> but is easy to try.
> 
> First create a softproof profile:
> 
> icclink *Lab printer.icm printer.icm deskjet.icm -osoftproof.icm
> 
> Then create a CRD
> 
> icc2ps -osoftproof.icm
> 
> Then load this CRD and the deskjet will act as a proofer for printer.icm
> 
> The idea is, I'm creating a output profile with following transform:
> 
> PCS(Lab) -> printer.icm -> CMYK -> printer.icm -> Lab -> deskjet.icm -> RGB
> 
> That behaves as an output profile Lab -> RGB, but contains a softproof of
> printer.icm
> 
> Hope this helps
> Marti Maria
> The little cms project
> http://www.littlecms.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marti Maria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lcms-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] ICC2PS
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> >So, this is the right way to use the CSA if I create
> >the Postscript Code by myself and put an image into it.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >But the Postscript Code comes from an Application
> >like QuarkYPress, Freehand, ... and there is Text,
> >Vector, and Image Data in it.
> 
> That is the point. The postscript interpreter will
> confrontate the CSAs or whatever for each element
> with the CRD to provide color management. Is for that
> reason that devicelink doesn't work. Usually, you need
> only to generate CRD, and let application software to
> handle all CSA.
> 
> >So if there is no way to link the profiles,
> >I need to find a way to make the CSA sticky for
> >the whole Postscript-Page.
> 
> This is a limitation of the way PostScript works.
> If you need to do some softproofing, tifficc can effectively do
> it without any PostScript. You don't even need devicelink
> 
> tifficc -i input_profile_of_ you_image.icm -p printer_to_softproof.icm -o
> proofer.icm input.tif output.tif
> 
> If you want to use, say deskjet as proofer for
> printer.icm, and the tiff has embedded profile:
> 
> tifficc  -p printer.icm -o deskjet.icm input.tif output.tif
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Marti Maria
> The little cms project
> http://www.littlecms.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re-2: [Lcms-user] ICC2PS
> 
> 
> So, this is the right way to use the CSA if I create
> the Postscript Code by myself and put an image into it.
> 
> But the Postscript Code comes from an Application
> like QuarkYPress, Freehand, ... and there is Text,
> Vector, and Image Data in it.
> 
> So if there is no way to link the profiles,
> I need to find a way to make the CSA sticky for
> the whole Postscript-Page.
> 
> Like putting it to an
> << /Install {????} >> setpagedevice
> 
> I am looking thru the PRLM forward and backward
> and do not find a way to do that.
> 
> Regards
> Thomas
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] ICC2PS (27-Mai-2003 13:03)
> From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >
> >
> > Ok, so, if your output device is the inkjet, you need a CRD
> > for that. This has (right now) nothing to do with the proof.
> >
> > icc2ps -o inkjet.icm >CRD.PS
> >
> > Then you keep this CRD for printing characterization.
> > Then, you need to characterize a CMYK bitmap as if it
> > comes from the printing machine, so generate a CSA
> > for that:
> >
> > icc2ps -i printing.icm >CSA.ps
> >
> > Then you need to incorporate this CSA into your EPS or
> > whatever coming from printing machine.
> >
> > The CRD is fixed, it describes your printer and you need
> > not to change it anymore, as long as the printer (or inks,
> > or media) is not changed. This is equivalent to a profile for
> > the printer.
> >
> > The CSA is like the "embedded profile" in your image.
> > It can be different for any different image.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marti.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:24 PM
> > Subject: Re-2: [Lcms-user] ICC2PS
> >
> >
> > Thanks Marti, for the second time you answered
> > really fast.
> >
> > I have a printing-machine Profile CMYK (a)
> > and a inkjet-printer Profile RGB (b).
> >
> > First I generate a device link profile from
> > (a) to (b), this works.
> >
> > Second I want to generate a CRD
> > which I can use to stick into my
> > Postscript-Code for simulating
> > the Printing-Process.
> >
> > The Postscript goes into Gs and
> > produces a bitrgb and these
> > bitrgb-data are formated new to
> > a bitmap the inkjet-printer understands.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Thomas
> >
> > > Are you sure you have used it properly?
> > >
> > > icc2ps *does* accept devicelink, but only a very
> > > special ones, with Lab or XYZ in one side.
> > >
> > > This is because CRD or CSA generation needs
> > > to know PCS, and a normal devicelink goes
> > > from device to device.
> > >
> > > Could please explain a bit what are you
> > > trying to do?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marti.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:38 AM
> > > Subject: Re-2: [Lcms-user] ICC2PS
> > >
> > >
> > > Hallo Marti,
> > > I tried to use the icc2ps.exe
> > > with devicelink Profiles generated from
> > > icclink.exe, this does nor work.
> > >
> > > Will this work in the future?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > >
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