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Re: Re: GIMP color management (Bob Friesenhahn) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:36:28 +1100 > From: Graeme Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Argyll CMS > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Re: GIMP color management > > Carol Spears wrote: > > yeah, it is cool. reading the mail list and submitting patches is the > > way to do things right. no need to talk to yosh or me or anyone about > > it. > > You won't get the broadest contribution from those with color expertise if > this is the hurdle to be jumped. There is a lot of good stuff out there > that could help GIMP out, but you can't expect it to be handed to you by > first having everyone become a GIMP hacker. Most of the expertise in color > has no > particular interest in GIMP as an end in itself (disappointing as that is, > I imagine, to those working on GIMP!). > > What's more reasonable is for GIMP developers to look at what's out there, > and request assistance in making it suitable for inclusion in GIMP (ie. > interfaces, > features, licences, organization, explanation). It would be a far more > efficient > arrangement for people to work in their areas of expertise, rather than > expecting > everyone to become familiar with the intricacies of GIMP. > > Of course the broader view is that all this is inefficient, and a better > solution would be to develop a general color infrastructure for Linux > and other systems, a user of which would be GIMP. > > Graeme Gill. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:32:05 -0800 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Re: GIMP color management > From: Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 03:36:28PM +1100, Graeme Gill wrote: > > Carol Spears wrote: > > >yeah, it is cool. reading the mail list and submitting patches is the > > >way to do things right. no need to talk to yosh or me or anyone about > > >it. > > > > You won't get the broadest contribution from those with color expertise if > > this is the hurdle to be jumped. There is a lot of good stuff out there > > that could help GIMP out, but you can't expect it to be handed to you by > > first having everyone become a GIMP hacker. Most of the expertise in color > > has no > > particular interest in GIMP as an end in itself (disappointing as that is, > > I imagine, to those working on GIMP!). > > > this was a response to Mr. Rowe's claim that you needed to work through > Manish Singh (yosh) and other stuff that was incorrect and cut from this > mail. > > > What's more reasonable is for GIMP developers to look at what's out there, > > and request assistance in making it suitable for inclusion in GIMP (ie. > > interfaces, > > features, licences, organization, explanation). It would be a far more > > efficient > > arrangement for people to work in their areas of expertise, rather than > > expecting > > everyone to become familiar with the intricacies of GIMP. > > > i think they have been doing this and i also know that they are really > happy with the people who have been discussing color management on the > developer list. > > the person who started this thread asked specifically about getting > write permission to the gimp development branch, or perhaps i misread > this. > > the suggestion for following the discussion on the gimp-developer list > would rightfully be directed at idea people who do not want to deal > directly with submiting code. > > > Of course the broader view is that all this is inefficient, and a better > > solution would be to develop a general color infrastructure for Linux > > and other systems, a user of which would be GIMP. > > > the gimp developers have been working with freedesktop.org since before > gimp2 arrived. i don't suspect this will change when it comes to color > management. > > if people are not interested in gimp and color profiles, that is fine. > i was answering different sorts of questions that were more specifically > related to "how to get permission". > > as Hal said, there has already been some very good discussion of color > management on the gimp-developer mail list and the developers are > interested in learning as well as patches. > > however, if you feel that your efforts are best given to a more general > discussion, i am certain that eventually those efforts will make it to > gimp. feel free to not get cvs permission or read the gimp-developer > list as well. > > i stand by what i said about the right way to become a code contributor, > however. and i will continue to explain this if the wrong message is > imparted by people who went about things the wrong way. > > thanks, > carol > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: gerhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] GIMP color management > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:33:11 +0100 > > Am Samstag 12 Februar 2005 17:13 schrieb Francisco Bernal Rosso: > > But =BF=BFWhat int the hell is CVS?? > > I can programm in C, I know about physics and color technology. I am > > not informatic, but photographer with a good knowledge about color > > science. > > Hello Bernal > > You can get more information about the concurrent versioning system > here: > http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/CVS > http://www.cvshome.org > > Almost all open-source software development uses cvs for versioning the=20 > code, to help large groups of developer to keep control over the code. > > I hope that helps. > > Kind regards > > Gerhard > > =2D- > Something useful for discussion in usenet and mailinglists: > http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:56:44 -0600 (CST) > From: Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Graeme Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Re: GIMP color management > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Graeme Gill wrote: > > > Carol Spears wrote: > >> yeah, it is cool. reading the mail list and submitting patches is the > >> way to do things right. no need to talk to yosh or me or anyone about > >> it. > > > > You won't get the broadest contribution from those with color expertise if > > this is the hurdle to be jumped. There is a lot of good stuff out there > > that could help GIMP out, but you can't expect it to be handed to you by > > first having everyone become a GIMP hacker. Most of the expertise in color > > I totally agree with this. In addition to the above, I should mention > that lcms (and perhaps argyll) make color management transforms so > trivial to implement that except for color managing the display, > adding the transform parts is very easy. > > The *hard* part is capturing the experience from color management > professionals (i.e. users) and automating that experience in order to > support the capabilities experienced professionals need and expect. > This part does not require any programming expertise at all. > > There is a big difference between a transform engine (e.g. lcms) and a > full-blown color management *system*. > > Bob > ====================================== > Bob Friesenhahn > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Lcms-user mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user > > End of Lcms-user Digest ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. 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