Hello !

I joined this list to get some working-level advice on color management
issues. Hope, this is an appropriate place.

My background: About 5 weeks ago, I started playing with the
vector-graphics program Inkscape. I made a color drawing for my
brother's birthday, which I printed out (png) in a copy shop. On this
print, a blue gradient fill turned into a blue to dirty-green fill.

As far as I understand, I have to transform the RGB color space into
CMYK to get a correct print file as well as being able to soft proof
what I am going to print. I installed ECI + Adobe ICC-Profiles and tried
the Separate plugin for The Gimp, PDF/X-3 from Scribus, and finally the
command-line utilities of Lcms.

I don't really understand much of what I am doing, what I actually can
do, and how to bypass that the bloke in the copy shop hasn't heard of
color management yet + can't give me a printer profile. Also, some of my
experiments yield strange, unexpected results.


I assume, the png I exported from Inkscape is based on sRGB color space.
I used Gimp to convert it into a tif, and if I then

tifficc -oISOcoated.icc -t0 file.tif file-CMYK.tif
the lightness increases considerably and the greenish hue isn't as bad
as on the print but still visible (via IrfanView). The output-profile
name is NOT written to the file (hex editor checked).
How can such a file be properly displayed? How can it be further
transformed, e.g. to a specific printer profile?

If I use
tifficc -e -oISOcoated.icc -t0 file.tif file-eCMYK.tif
the result looks very much closer to the original RGB, just a little
less brilliant.
Is Embedding how things are supposed to be done? Always?

How do I go on with the copy shop now? Is color management only
application based or do nowadays (Minolta 2xxx; sorry forgot) machines
somehow handle ISO profiles without further adjustment? Is it senseful
to make him find his printer profile? If so, i.e. if we have to set it
up, is the configuration usually done via the printer-driver interface
or via the application (Photoshop)?

If I use the Scribus-PDF/X-3 variant, which saves the png and tif
intermediates, is an Acrobat Reader in the copy shop a sufficient
application for color-managed printing?

Is ISOcoated_v2_eci to be preferred over ISOcoated (ECI, 2004), or do
you suggest a different profile for my hobby case?


Thank you very much for your help
H.Lekin

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