Hi Marti,
 
Thank you for your quick response!
 
I must admit I had not looked at the L*-value in PhotoShop, and I think that 
lcms 1 has a reasonable behaviour.
 
However, since the "color engine triad" apparently try to find the nearest 
L*a*b*-color in this case I will try out lcms 2.0 when time permits.
We will give it a good whack - we have some guys around that are rather picky 
about their colors.
 
 
I have been following your 2.0 blog for a while, but could I ask for a quick 
comment about how mature you think it is?
 
 
Have a nice weekend,
 
Esben Høgh-Rasmussen Myosotis
Software Engineer
 
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From: Marti.Maria [mailto:marti.ma...@littlecms.com] 
Sent: 5. februar 2010 15:49
To: Esben Høgh-Rasmussen
Cc: lcms-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Bad clipping by lcms



Hi 

If you open the source image in photoshop and examine it with the color picker, 
you will see all pixels do have L*=0

lcms 1.x assumes this is black, no matter the chroma. 

lcms 2.0 does not make such assumption, it gives a result equal to the Adobe 
and MS samples you sent.

The first beta will be available in a day or two.
Regards
Marti.


Esben Høgh-Rasmussen wrote: 

        Hello,
         
        I have tried to use lcms for some conversions, but I stumbled over an 
example where it appears to do a poor job.
         
        It is an image from a digital camera and I want to convert it to sRGB 
(or something) using a color profile (embedded):
         
        
        ftp://updates.phaseone.com/prerelease/Images/lcms/In-16bit.tif
         
        
        It is a rather dark and outside the profile gamut, but it renders well 
using Microsoft, Adobes and Apples color management engines.
         
         
        Here are conversions using Adobe, Microsoft and LCMS:
         
        
http://updates.phaseone.com/prerelease/Images/lcms/Out-16bit-sRGB-Adobe.tif
        
http://updates.phaseone.com/prerelease/Images/lcms/Out-16bit-sRGB-Microsoft.tif
        
http://updates.phaseone.com/prerelease/Images/lcms/Out-16bit-sRGB-LCMS.tif
        
        Black-poiont compensation was turned off on the Adobe conversion 
(performed by PhotoShop).
        The Microsoft engine was performed using native calls.
         
        This particular conversion was created with the flags 
cmsFLAGS_HIGHRESPRECALC | cmsFLAGS_BLACKPOINTCOMPENSATION, but I tried just 
about any permutation and the problem is basically the same regardless of 
intent.
         
         
        Just to check I am not completely insane I tried to do the conversion 
in Gimp (based on LCMS).
         
        First I converted to 8-bit in PhotoShop and then did the conversion in 
both:
        
http://updates.phaseone.com/prerelease/Images/lcms/Out-8bit-sRGB-Adobe.tif
        
http://updates.phaseone.com/prerelease/Images/lcms/Out-8bit-sRGB-GIMP.tif
         
        Same result, so I conclude that this is how LCMS handles the conversion.
         
         
        Is there a way to solve this issue? 
         
         
        Kind regards,
         
         
        Esben Høgh-Rasmussen Myosotis
        Software Engineer
         
        Phase One A/S
        Roskildevej 39
        DK-2000 Frederiksberg
        Denmark
        Phone: + 45 36 13 12 07
        Fax.:    + 45 36 46 02 22
        Mobile: + 45 28 51 10 79
        E-mail: e...@phaseone.com
        www.phaseone.com <http://www.phaseone.com/> 
        
         
        
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