Hello Mark.

You are correct. Mac OS X Preview does assign a generic RGB profile. I must 
have modified the profile in the image I was looking at and saved it without 
realising.

so... The question is should I use a generic RGB profile and use that to 
transform to sRGB or just assume the data is already sRGB and do nothing.

As we are showing the profiled pictures on-screen I guess that no matter which 
way we do it the user will have a visual representation of how the colours have 
been transformed and the output device will also know how to print the data as 
there will be a sRGB profile attached. This must be better than if the original 
unprofiled picture was printed as the output device wouldn't know how to 
interpret the colours and could do anything with the data.


Regards,
Kevin.

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From: Mark [...@cine-scan.com]
Sent: 08 June 2010 21:25
To: Kevin Gale; Lcms Liste
Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Suggestions For Mixing Images With And Without Profiles

Are you sure Preview is using the monitor profile? I thought Apple uses the 
Generic RGB profile when no profile is supplied - but I'm not sure.
The profile is at /System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Generic RGB Profile.icc

The guys at the ColorSync mailing list might be able to answer this better...

Mark


On 08.06.2010, at 20:29, Kevin Gale wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I'm looking for some advice / thoughts on how to composite images with and 
> without profiles.
>
> Some background....
>
> Users can select and manipulate their digital camera pictures in our app 
> on-screen before they are composited into a single file with a sRGB profile 
> attached. Currently, our app does the following:
> 1. If the image has a profile the data is transformed to sRGB when outputting 
> to file and to the monitor's profile for on-screen display.
>
> 2. If the image does not have a profile it assumes the data is already sRGB. 
> This means that when outputting to file no transformation is performed but 
> on-screen a generic sRGB profile is used as the input profile to transform to 
> the monitor's profile.
>
>
> I have recently been revisiting this as I cannot decide if I am doing the 
> right thing here when dealing with images that do not have a profile. For 
> example, if I open an unprofiled image in Photoshop it assigns the sRGB 
> profile (same result as our app) while on the other hand if I open the same 
> image in Mac OS X Preview it appears to use the monitor's profile. I could 
> either keep things the way they are or instead grab the monitor's profile to 
> use as the input profile so that part of the composited image looks like the 
> original image opened in Mac OS X Preview.
>
> Hope this makes sense so far....
>
> My thoughts are that neither of these is really right or wrong since the 
> image does not have any profile and the pixels are technically meaningless 
> (the data could, after all, be sRGB). The end-users of our app will have no 
> knowledge of profiles so to start prompting them with questions would cause 
> lots of headaches. However, there is always the situation where I have to 
> explain why the composited output from our app looks different to the 
> original pictures due to the app that the original pictures were viewed in.
>
>
> Would anybody like to share their thoughts / advice on this?
>
>
> Regards,
> Kevin.
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