I'm looking in the LDOM 1.3 admin guide and it's telling me to create a vdsdev 
for the secondary i/o domains through the primary domain.  Wouldn't this freeze 
the secondary domain and the multipathed guest domains if the primary goes down?

Thanks
Buck

From: Peter Wilson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:40 PM
To: Huffman, Buck
Subject: Re: [ldoms-discuss] Question about I/O Domains

Your guest domains don't need to be stopped if you reboot a primary domain, but 
if they are relying on IO from the primary (or other IO/Service domain), and in 
a single primary IO domain config, they are relying on it for disks and network 
devices,  they will be unable to complete any IO transactions until that 
supporting primary/IO domain comes back and allows the transactions to 
complete. In the meantime the guests are 'hung' waiting for IO to complete, 
they can carry on using processors and memory to their hearts content but its 
likely that at some point they will try to do some IO and not be able to.

So long as the applications in the guests can withstand the resulting very long 
latency IO transaction, the guest OS will continue to retry the transactions 
until the supporting domain comes back, at which point normal service will be 
resumed the transaction completes and the application moves on with its next 
job, not all applications can live with long latencies like this.... you can 
avoid this by having two or more IO/Service domains that provide seperate 
devices to the guest that (in the guest or to a limited extent in the LDoms 
framework) are configured as alternate paths for each other (Network IPMP or 
mirrored disks, or MPGROUP disks), hence one device the guest is trying to use 
may fail but the other device (from the other IO domain) is a suitable failover 
device and the guest can continue to operate via that device. No guest 
downtime, no interruption to guest service.

Peter

Huffman, Buck wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  If I have to reboot the primary domain I'm going to have 
to stop all the guest domains anyways, aren't I?  I've read that doc and the 
wiki and it's telling me how to do it, not why.



Buck







-----Original Message-----

From: Mads Toftum [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:29 PM

To: Huffman, Buck

Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [ldoms-discuss] Question about I/O Domains



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:27:24PM -0700, Buck Huffman wrote:



I'm currently testing/configuring 4 T5440's (2 prod & 2 UAT) and I have a 
couple of question about how I should configure my systems.  I'm planning on 
having four guest domains running as individual cluster nodes on each system.  
Right now I've got a CFS share running on my primary domains to host the guest 
domains root file systems.  I've got 4 dual-port HBA's and 3 NIC's that I need 
to come up with a configuration.



So Question:

Is there a benefit to running two I/O domains each with a NIC and an HBA that 
then shares to the guest domains?  Or should I just run a primary that controls 
all the I/O?





Yes, the primary benifits being redundancy and having the option to

reboot control/io domains without having to shut down all guest domains.

I highly recommend reading:

http://wikis.sun.com/display/BluePrints/LDOMS+IO+Best+Practices+-+Data+Reliability+With+Logical+Domains





vh



Mads Toftum



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