Developers esp database in our agency balk at any downtime during the day and 
any other changes.
You could argue a failure of leadership in upper management but OTOH they are 
paid whether its up or not so we don't want downtime.  Cluster also gives 
forced conformity.  Yes you can go around updating systems and OpsCenter 11g is 
great and you could use Live Upgrade but that is another leadership failure 
partly offset by the point that the development aren't all on same revision of 
OS etc and so are afraid that since noone else was the guinea pig it will break 
their database (even Oracle dbms because they might even be as recent as 10g 
but still have 9i running).

Real life in an institution suffering a long period of this sort of thing is 
messy.


----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected] 
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed May 18 12:30:38 2011
Subject: Re: [ldoms-discuss] Veritas

for development DB why need cluster at all?
just use SAN to snapshot lun and move between hosts, the key is use 
Virtual IP (not phys-IP addess)
so one can move the application very easily between hosts (after you 
move the storage)


On 5/18/2011 12:18 PM, Hung-ShengTsao (Lao Tsao) Ph.D. wrote:
>
>
> On 5/18/2011 12:13 PM, Hudes, Dana wrote:
>> Because RAC is for parallel database clusters and that is a separate 
>> project by someone else who has to deal a DBA who won't let him use 
>> any zones or LDOMs or zfs even for boot of the platform. Or patch the 
>> cluster. Or get RAC to actually serve queries to production clients. 
>> For 3 years now.
>>
>> I have many disparate apps including Informix 7 and 11.5 and various 
>> development databases.
>>
>> RAC with no Oracle database to run in parallel is a rather expensive 
>> toy.
> sure but without rac, you doesnot have to worry about qfs or 
> c-vxvm/CFS  etc
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: 
>> [email protected]<[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wed May 18 12:02:33 2011
>> Subject: Re: [ldoms-discuss] Veritas
>>
>> why not just install oracle 11gr2 rac/asm without vcs or osc (without
>> qfs or vxfs)?
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/2011 11:53 AM, Hudes, Dana wrote:
>>> Anyone know anything about LDOM2 support and Veritas Storage 
>>> Foundation (vxfs.vxvm) , Veritas Cluster 5 both HA and CFS (parallel 
>>> cluster filesystem)?
>>>
>>> For that matter any gotchas with QFS?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dana Hudes
>>> HRA MIS UNIX
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